<< <i>I don't have any idea what will happen with ANACS, but I find the idea that any significant portion of the Texas-based ANACS employees will be moving to Colorodo to be very hard to believe. Perhaps a few key folks were offered positions, but it would likely take a significant chunk of cash to relocate all important personnel. In the field that I work (science) there are many small, medium and large companies that have either closed outright or that have relocated their physical presence and in this field essentially no one, other than officers of the company, has even a chance to relocate with the firm. >>
They may offer IF the employees want to move at their own expense. >>
Not an easy proposition to sell a house these days too.
He was Educational Director at the ANA up until about 10 years ago, and did a wonderful job with the summer seminar and other things while he was there.
He went into the private sector to work for ICG, left to join ANACS, but couldn't justify the move to Austin with his family. He left ANACS after the move to re-join ICG.
I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. >>
Well as far as ANACS goes, he's managed to single-handley destroy them. Fair or unfair, that's his legacy right now.
<< <i>Well I certainly hope idahogal moves with it to Colorado! >>
That was the first thing that came to your mind about this? >>
Sure! Why not!
She's a collector and was tickled pink that she got hired by ANACS to work in a business she really enjoys! If she lost her job and got stuck in Austin because of the baloney that has been occuring, that would be very sad.
Besides, I've met Tracy and she puts a face on ANACS. ANACS is nothing without the personnel that actually do the work so why not consider them first?
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
"I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. "
Agreed. James is a good guy.
Isn't it possible that James isn't to blame for ANACS' grade inflation? Maybe it was the graders, who may have lost their jobs, at least for one minute. Anyway, who knows what happened to the employees? It's all pure speculation until we get the facts from someone who knows.
All I can contribute is that ANACS doesn't show up in either the Colorado or Texas public corporation records, and there's nothing new in the Ohio records.
<< <i>"I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. " >>
Negative= people dumped from their jobs!!!
Leader= Hopping from job to job???
High morals= Sounds to me like a person that would take a crap on your living room carpet.
ANACS will be changing their name. They will now be referred to as ANUS
Like everyone else here posting, I have no clue what actually happened, no information from any first-hand source, and no real stake in any of this.
That said, is it not possible that ANACS was going down the tubes already (it sure looked like it from my vantage point) and JT bought the business, or what was left of it, in a last desperate effort to turn it around? Maybe he is not the villain that is being portrayed here and maybe the company is not the Evil Empire™? Businesses fail all the time, a sad reality of life.
I just thought we needed a reality check and a different perspective.
<< <i>Well I certainly hope idahogal moves with it to Colorado! >>
That was the first thing that came to your mind about this? >>
Sure! Why not!
She's a collector and was tickled pink that she got hired by ANACS to work in a business she really enjoys! If she lost her job and got stuck in Austin because of the baloney that has been occuring, that would be very sad.
Besides, I've met Tracy and she puts a face on ANACS. ANACS is nothing without the personnel that actually do the work so why not consider them first? >>
After talking to Traci, she is not moving to CO and no longer works for ANACS. She did say she is going to move to CA and stay with her mother.
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
" Like everyone else here posting, I have no clue what actually happened, no information from any first-hand source, and no real stake in any of this.
That said, is it not possible that ANACS was going down the tubes already (it sure looked like it from my vantage point) and JT bought the business, or what was left of it, in a last desperate effort to turn it around? Maybe he is not the villain that is being portrayed here and maybe the company is not the Evil Empire™? Businesses fail all the time, a sad reality of life.
I just thought we needed a reality check and a different perspective. "
Very well put. When companies are going downhill, times are not pretty. The timing and how this all happened really sucks for the employees, but it very well could be that their jobs were very much in jeopardy already.
If the sale of ANACS is really an attempt to rescue the company, then I do wish the best success for James. And... my thoughts are definitely with the employees that lost their jobs.... I've been in a similar situation before and when it happens with no warning........
<< <i>I don't have any idea what will happen with ANACS, but I find the idea that any significant portion of the Texas-based ANACS employees will be moving to Colorodo to be very hard to believe. Perhaps a few key folks were offered positions, but it would likely take a significant chunk of cash to relocate all important personnel. In the field that I work (science) there are many small, medium and large companies that have either closed outright or that have relocated their physical presence and in this field essentially no one, other than officers of the company, has even a chance to relocate with the firm. >>
They may offer IF the employees want to move at their own expense. >>
Not an easy proposition to sell a house these days too. >>
True, but you have that problem whether they pay relocation expenses or not.
<< <i>If ANACS survives this non-notification re-location and the negative publicity from this, Ill be surprised. >>
Really? The people that will actually be aware of the relocation and how it was done will be approximately 0.01% of the hobby. Fewer than that will actually care enough for it to impact their slabbing decisions.
ANACS has recently been sold by Anderson Press Incorporated to Driving Force, LLC, of Colorado, owned by James Taylor. The purchase was effective December 21, 2007 and the company is being relocated to suburban Denver, Colorado.
The office is currently closed for the holidays to allow time for the move.
Customers that had submissions at the Austin location please rest assured that they are being handled in the safest and most professional of manners as they are transported by armored service to the new office.
Business will resume and submissions will begin to ship out January 2, 2008. If there are any questions please don't hesitate to contact Mr. Taylor at: James.Taylor@ANACS.com
The new ANACS office will be located at:
6555 S. Kenton St, Suite 303 Englewood, CO 80112 1-800-888-1861 www.ANACS.com
Just got mine as well- the subject line is "Exciting News From ANACS!"
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Yep... I received it also... I guess it's better late than never...
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<< <i>"I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. " >>
Negative= people dumped from their jobs!!!
Leader= Hopping from job to job???
High morals= Sounds to me like a person that would take a crap on your living room carpet.
ANACS will be changing their name. They will now be referred to as ANUS >>
<< <i>I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. >>
You are a joke.
He fired everyone the day after Christmas without any advanced notice. They lost their jobs and health benefits during the most difficult time of the year to find new employment. I am sure EX-ANACS employees and anyone with a heart could say something negative about him.
If it is true that ANACS surreptitiously has taken all the ICG employees and their biggest customers is this what you would consider a real leader with very high morals.
High morals my ass. Rape and pillage businessman is more like it.
I don't get all the anger directed at the new owners. The old employees are not his responsibility but the previous owners. They could have negotiated out of their proceeds packages for their employees. It sounds to me like this was an asset sale and probably the only important asset the name. If you have never experienced the sale of the company you worked for I guess you assumed the new owners were responsible for the existing employees, this is not the case when the new owner has no desire to keep them. The previous owners had to know this and they should have taken care of their employees including the announcement to them, etc. etc.
Fortunately when I sold my company I was able to insure that the current employees would remain and in fact I had a payout and stayed on as a consultant for 2 years. Unfortunately that is not always the case.
I hope this works out for the best for you. I still remember you at the UT shows with Dan Templeman. You had the wildest electric blue NGC Roosie I still have ever seen . . .hope you still have it!
<< <i>I don't get all the anger directed at the new owners. The old employees are not his responsibility but the previous owners. They could have negotiated out of their proceeds packages for their employees. It sounds to me like this was an asset sale and probably the only important asset the name. If you have never experienced the sale of the company you worked for I guess you assumed the new owners were responsible for the existing employees, this is not the case when the new owner has no desire to keep them. The previous owners had to know this and they should have taken care of their employees including the announcement to them, etc. etc.
Fortunately when I sold my company I was able to insure that the current employees would remain and in fact I had a payout and stayed on as a consultant for 2 years. Unfortunately that is not always the case. >>
As I said before I like Mr Taylor for his coin knowledge, but do I smell a RAT! here? He worked at both ICg and Anacs and tried to buy Icg and failed, resigned and went to Anacs, retired there and now bought Anacs.
I hope people that paid for their product when he was working at Anacs got a fair shake/grade on their coin.
Now it will be seen what kind of a company he will have now. It is not James Taylors fault, it is a business people. I will not spend a dime on Anacs slabs until things are proven. My money means something to me.
I feel that I am in a fortunate and enviable position of getting to work with the history of ANACS everyday at the ANA. I feel it is very important to be in touch with your organizations (or company's) history and I hope that ANACS will be able to hold onto that in some small way. I have nothing but the utmost respect for James Taylor, I'm sure he has a plan and reasons for it. He brought me to the ANA as a YN and was the first person that I met when I wondered into the offices a week before the beginning of the 1995 Summer Seminar. I wish ANACS good luck and I hope they'll flourish in their new (old?) setting.
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<< <i>I don't have any idea what will happen with ANACS, but I find the idea that any significant portion of the Texas-based ANACS employees will be moving to Colorodo to be very hard to believe. Perhaps a few key folks were offered positions, but it would likely take a significant chunk of cash to relocate all important personnel. In the field that I work (science) there are many small, medium and large companies that have either closed outright or that have relocated their physical presence and in this field essentially no one, other than officers of the company, has even a chance to relocate with the firm. >>
They may offer IF the employees want to move at their own expense. >>
Not an easy proposition to sell a house these days too.
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<< <i>James is not a grader, as far as I know.
I do count him as a good friend.
He was Educational Director at the ANA up until about 10 years ago, and did a wonderful job with the summer seminar and other things while he was there.
He went into the private sector to work for ICG, left to join ANACS, but couldn't justify the move to Austin with his family. He left ANACS after the move to re-join ICG.
I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. >>
Well as far as ANACS goes, he's managed to single-handley destroy them. Fair or unfair, that's his legacy right now.
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<< <i>Well I certainly hope idahogal moves with it to Colorado! >>
Sure! Why not!
She's a collector and was tickled pink that she got hired by ANACS to work in a business she really enjoys! If she lost her job and got stuck in Austin because of the baloney that has been occuring, that would be very sad.
Besides, I've met Tracy and she puts a face on ANACS. ANACS is nothing without the personnel that actually do the work so why not consider them first?
The name is LEE!
I hope they do, becuase there is use for thier service in this business, but will see!
Agreed. James is a good guy.
Isn't it possible that James isn't to blame for ANACS' grade inflation? Maybe it was the graders, who may have lost their jobs, at least for one minute. Anyway, who knows what happened to the employees? It's all pure speculation until we get the facts from someone who knows.
All I can contribute is that ANACS doesn't show up in either the Colorado or Texas public corporation records, and there's nothing new in the Ohio records.
<< <i>"I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. " >>
Negative= people dumped from their jobs!!!
Leader= Hopping from job to job???
High morals= Sounds to me like a person that would take a crap on your living room carpet.
ANACS will be changing their name. They will now be referred to as ANUS
That said, is it not possible that ANACS was going down the tubes already (it sure looked like it from my vantage point) and JT bought the business, or what was left of it, in a last desperate effort to turn it around? Maybe he is not the villain that is being portrayed here and maybe the company is not the Evil Empire™? Businesses fail all the time, a sad reality of life.
I just thought we needed a reality check and a different perspective.
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<< <i>Well I certainly hope idahogal moves with it to Colorado! >>
Sure! Why not!
She's a collector and was tickled pink that she got hired by ANACS to work in a business she really enjoys! If she lost her job and got stuck in Austin because of the baloney that has been occuring, that would be very sad.
Besides, I've met Tracy and she puts a face on ANACS. ANACS is nothing without the personnel that actually do the work so why not consider them first? >>
After talking to Traci, she is not moving to CO and no longer works for ANACS. She did say she is going to move to CA and stay with her mother.
That said, is it not possible that ANACS was going down the tubes already (it sure looked like it from my vantage point) and JT bought the business, or what was left of it, in a last desperate effort to turn it around? Maybe he is not the villain that is being portrayed here and maybe the company is not the Evil Empire™? Businesses fail all the time, a sad reality of life.
I just thought we needed a reality check and a different perspective. "
Very well put. When companies are going downhill, times are not pretty. The timing and how this all happened really sucks for the employees, but it very well could be that their jobs were very much in jeopardy already.
If the sale of ANACS is really an attempt to rescue the company, then I do wish the best success for James. And... my thoughts are definitely with the employees that lost their jobs.... I've been in a similar situation before and when it happens with no warning........
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<< <i>I don't have any idea what will happen with ANACS, but I find the idea that any significant portion of the Texas-based ANACS employees will be moving to Colorodo to be very hard to believe. Perhaps a few key folks were offered positions, but it would likely take a significant chunk of cash to relocate all important personnel. In the field that I work (science) there are many small, medium and large companies that have either closed outright or that have relocated their physical presence and in this field essentially no one, other than officers of the company, has even a chance to relocate with the firm. >>
They may offer IF the employees want to move at their own expense. >>
Not an easy proposition to sell a house these days too. >>
True, but you have that problem whether they pay relocation expenses or not.
<< <i>If ANACS survives this non-notification re-location and the negative publicity from this, Ill be surprised. >>
Really? The people that will actually be aware of the relocation and how it was done will be approximately 0.01% of the hobby. Fewer than that will actually care enough for it to impact their slabbing decisions.
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ANACS has recently been sold by Anderson Press Incorporated to Driving Force, LLC, of Colorado, owned by James Taylor. The purchase was effective December 21, 2007 and the company is being relocated to suburban Denver, Colorado.
The office is currently closed for the holidays to allow time for the move.
Customers that had submissions at the Austin location please rest assured that they are being handled in the safest and most professional of manners as they are transported by armored service to the new office.
Business will resume and submissions will begin to ship out January 2, 2008. If there are any questions please don't hesitate to contact Mr. Taylor at: James.Taylor@ANACS.com
The new ANACS office will be located at:
6555 S. Kenton St, Suite 303
Englewood, CO 80112
1-800-888-1861
www.ANACS.com
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<< <i>"I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. " >>
Negative= people dumped from their jobs!!!
Leader= Hopping from job to job???
High morals= Sounds to me like a person that would take a crap on your living room carpet.
ANACS will be changing their name. They will now be referred to as ANUS >>
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>I have never found anyone in this business who didn't like James or could say anything negative about him. He is a real leader, with very high morals and the numismatic community should be very happy to have him around. >>
He fired everyone the day after Christmas without any advanced notice. They lost their jobs and health benefits during the most difficult time of the year to find new employment. I am sure EX-ANACS employees and anyone with a heart could say something negative about him.
If it is true that ANACS surreptitiously has taken all the ICG employees and their biggest customers is this what you would consider a real leader with very high morals.
High morals my ass.
Fortunately when I sold my company I was able to insure that the current employees would remain and in fact I had a payout and stayed on as a consultant for 2 years. Unfortunately that is not always the case.
I hope this works out for the best for you. I still remember you at the UT shows with Dan Templeman. You had the wildest electric blue NGC Roosie I still have ever seen . . .hope you still have it!
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<< <i>I don't get all the anger directed at the new owners. The old employees are not his responsibility but the previous owners. They could have negotiated out of their proceeds packages for their employees. It sounds to me like this was an asset sale and probably the only important asset the name. If you have never experienced the sale of the company you worked for I guess you assumed the new owners were responsible for the existing employees, this is not the case when the new owner has no desire to keep them. The previous owners had to know this and they should have taken care of their employees including the announcement to them, etc. etc.
Fortunately when I sold my company I was able to insure that the current employees would remain and in fact I had a payout and stayed on as a consultant for 2 years. Unfortunately that is not always the case. >>
As I said before I like Mr Taylor for his coin knowledge, but do I smell a RAT! here? He worked at both ICg and Anacs and tried to buy Icg and failed, resigned and went to Anacs, retired there and now bought Anacs.
I hope people that paid for their product when he was working at Anacs got a fair shake/grade on their coin.
Now it will be seen what kind of a company he will have now. It is not James Taylors fault, it is a business people. I will not spend a dime on Anacs slabs until things are proven. My money means something to me.
I feel it is very important to be in touch with your organizations (or company's) history and I hope that ANACS will be able to hold onto that in some small way.
I have nothing but the utmost respect for James Taylor, I'm sure he has a plan and reasons for it. He brought me to the ANA as a YN and was the first person that I met when I wondered into the offices a week before the beginning of the 1995 Summer Seminar.
I wish ANACS good luck and I hope they'll flourish in their new (old?) setting.
I specialize in Errors, Minting, Counterfeit Detection & Grading.
Computer-aided grading, counterfeit detection, recognition and imaging.