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MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
Andy Lustig

Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • Is that a full bid increment above the underbidder?
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is that a full bid increment above the underbidder?

    Nope. The winning bid was my limit.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Cleaned, dipped, bent, altered surfaces, environmental damage.

    Oh and nice pickup. obviously none of the above. image
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    "Get R Done"!!!!!!!!!!


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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, sometimes your the hammer and sometimes your the nail.

    You sure were a big hammer this time Andy....congrats.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Smells like a shill to me....seems odd that someone else would just magically bid 17 cents less than you. That being said, how could they have known your maximum?? I guess they couldn't have, so nice pick up image
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Smells like a shill to me....seems odd that someone else would just magically bid 17 cents less than you. That being said, how could they have known your maximum?? I guess they couldn't have, so nice pick up image >>

    Andy was the sniper. His bid came in a second *after* the underbid. This was just two snipers entering *very* similar bids, with Andy's being higher by 17 cents.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Oh I see...I didn't look at the time. My next question, why did the coin sell for so much? What am I missing about it?
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay, I give up, what am I missing here? Regarding the coin and the price paid, not the bidding.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My best guess is that the coin will grade 64. Of course it's a gamble.

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    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I must admit, that's pretty slick. The underbidder must be shocked.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My best guess is that the coin will grade 64. Of course it's a gamble. >>



    I would ask you if you wanna bet, but you already did! image
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Okay, I give up, what am I missing here? Regarding the coin and the price paid, not the bidding. >>

    I suspect they think the coin will grade at least 63.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My best guess is that the coin will grade 64. Of course it's a gamble. >>


    That's a heckuva gamble from those lousy pics. Good luck! Keep us posted
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  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭
    Please read post about picking up penny's image nice!!
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  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Andy was the sniper. His bid came in a second *after* the underbid. This was just two snipers entering *very* similar bids, with Andy's being higher by 17 cents. >>



    But... his bid should have been knocked out as not being enough of an increment over the earlier bid, right? Or was the high bid to beat the increment over the 191 bid?

    Nice bit of luck either way, I had a similar situation a while ago where I won by 4 cents.
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  • 08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭
    Nice pick-up.

    Just think if you or the other sniper didn't bid it would have gone for $200.

    Joe
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    I love it when that happens and I'm the winner - hate it when I'm the loser, and I've had them go both ways.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just plain luck. The other bidder could have picked the next increment over $780. I've been on both sides of the fence with no more than 5C separating me from the other guy on a $1000 coin.
    But for a $5 increment +$8.95 is as good as +$10.00. I usually add $7.77 so maybe it's time to reassess my #'s as well.

    Normally bidding $780 for a raw coin that the seller says is worth around $195 is a stretch. Considering the seller has been on ebay for years with over 1000 transactions, I would hope he can tell an EF $2-1/2 Lib from a MS63 or 64. My guess is that it won't be unc.
    But ya never know. The seller does offer a return priv but I personally feel it would be in bad taste to return the coin if it's clear it won't go at least 63. The seller was clearly upfront. And unless it's not at least EF45, the buyer should keep it.

    roadrunner
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My best guess is that the coin will grade 64. Of course it's a gamble.

    Seller mentions XF-45... how do you know the Pic's are of the actual coinimage

    Secondly you should never brag until you have the coin...

    Note from seller now knowing it's undergraded - sorry to have to refund your money as the USPS lost the coin. image
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Seller mentions XF-45... how do you know the Pic's are of the actual coinimage >>

    If the coin the buyer receives is not the coin pictured and no usage of stock photos is mentioned, then the seller has misrepresented the item and thus it would be reasonable to return the coin.

  • The coin has obviously been removed from its jewelry mount.image
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The bid jumped from $191 to $778... WOW !!!
  • WOW! that's some gamble. Using greysheet prices if the seller is right you lose $550. If you have correctly graded the coin from very poor pictures as ms 64 you win $370.
    How can anyone tell from these pictures that it hasn't been cleaned and will therefore BB?
    I have recently cracked out 2 Saints graded ms 64 by PCGS that I viewed in person and was sure that one or both would upgrade.
    They both came back in body bags marked altered surfaces.
    I can't grade a coin from pictures, especially pictures like these, but there sure seems to be enough rub on the hair beneath the coronet to reinforce the sellers appraisal.
    Andy, I do hope you're right and I'm wrong. Good luck with this one. Dave W


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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just plain luck. The other bidder could have picked the next increment over $780. I've been on both sides of the fence with no more than 5C separating me from the other guy on a $1000 coin.
    But for a $5 increment +$8.95 is as good as +$10.00. I usually add $7.77 so maybe it's time to reassess my #'s as well.

    Normally bidding $780 for a raw coin that the seller says is worth around $195 is a stretch. Considering the seller has been on ebay for years with over 1000 transactions, I would hope he can tell an EF $2-1/2 Lib from a MS63 or 64. My guess is that it won't be unc.
    But ya never know. The seller does offer a return priv but I personally feel it would be in bad taste to return the coin if it's clear it won't go at least 63. The seller was clearly upfront. And unless it's not at least EF45, the buyer should keep it.

    roadrunner >>



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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My best guess is that the coin will grade 64. Of course it's a gamble. >>




    Perhaps, Mr. Coinhound. But will it sticker?


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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Snipe! >>



    Amateur. I once had a snipe for 1 cent over the underbidder with 2 seconds to go at eBay on a rare VAM Morgan. image

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  • Looks like a nice coin. Keep us posted.
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a very nice pick. I have more nerve than most people, but I definitely don't second-guess on exact numeric grades based on pictures like that! Good luck, and I hope to see real pics posted when you receive it in a week?

  • Good luck! I hope the seller is wrong about the grade!

    Let us know how it turns out.
    //ab

  • vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My best guess is that the coin will grade 64. Of course it's a gamble.

    image >>



    Rightttttt

    Someone is having a laugh on this board.

    Stop it!
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My gut feel says it looks like an AU55 to MS62 coin based on the coloration change from the open fields to the protected peripherals.

    Could be the numismatic story of 2008 when it grades MS65*

    roadrunner
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good luck! I hope the seller is wrong about the grade!

    Here's another one from the same seller. He called the coin XF to AU. I think we can safely discount his grading.

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    Doesn't mean I got a good deal. And remember, I had to pay my top bid. We'll see...

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    awesome 5 second snipe


    I think you would have done better if you got

    this one about same money
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you would have done better if you got...

    I agree!
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭
    Curious as to the outcome...
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