Really COOL PCGS Slabs... what's the Story on these?
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Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>How about on of these Rattlers? >>
Okay, that one has me baffled. I have never seen a doiley rattler. All the doileys I've seen were the second generation "slab in a slab" variety. I wonder if the outer shell was removed?
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>Russ, nope that's a genuine transitional 'doiley' in a rattler slab... see the butt crack at the top of the rattler. >>
It wouldn't be "transitional" since there was a slab variety in-between the rattler and the doiley. It is either a PCGS mistake, or somebody removed the outer shell. Note that the reverse label is completely different than a rattler.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>How about on of these Rattlers? >>
Okay, that one has me baffled. I have never seen a doiley rattler. All the doileys I've seen were the second generation "slab in a slab" variety. I wonder if the outer shell was removed?
Russ, NCNE >>
That the first Doily Rattler I have seen too........
TorinoCobra71
<< <i>They came in a velvet bag or something...... >>
Who made the bags?
<< <i>How about one of these Rattlers?
Smoeone broke the outer ring...
I have 2 doilies same as this -with ring attached, and several ratlers and a few rats with the outer ring- no doilies without rings- cert 3's will tell the story...
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How about one of these Rattlers?
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As has been said before, this is just a regular Doiley holder with
the outer ring broken off.
I've seen them before.
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Good thread, and the folks who are saying that the dollie rattler is just a PCGS 3 with the outer band removed are correct. PCGS 2, 2.5, 3, and 3.5 are all just regular rattler shells with and extra plastic band placed around them. The band is not attached to the interior rattler shell and can be easily broken off.
PerryHall has the story right about the Regency slabs. For the extra $25 you could put two lines of text on the slab of your choosing with up to 22 characters each. No one answered Broadstrucks' question about when they were produced. The information I got from HRH was 1992-95. There has been some evidence though that it might have been a slightly longer period but I have no confirmation of that.
The easiest Regency slabs to find are the ones from the Danny Kaye collection. A lot of the coins including low value pieces were slabbed in Regency slabs. Easiest is a relative term though, they are still very seldom seen.
Since my book came out and awareness of them has increased, the dollie slabs are becoming more available but they are still scarce. I can now typically find one or two at larger shows. (100 - 150 dealers)
If you would like to post this information to the thread ATS please do,
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<< <i>No one answered Broadstrucks' question about when they were produced. The information I got from HRH was 1992-95. There has been some evidence though that it might have been a slightly longer period but I have no confirmation of that. >>
The gem mint state Elephant Token colonial coin which sold in the Eliasberg auction in May, 1996 raw was later slabbed in a PCGS Regency holder as MS66 RB, so HRH's date estimate is wrong by at least one year.
<< <i>Does anyone have a picture of the doily rattler with the outer ring in tact? I thought they just got rid of the rattlers after gen one but now it is sounding like it stayed for a while. >>
I think you're confused.
Rattlers did last one generation only, and so your comment that they 'stayed for a while' is simply incorrect.
Any "Doily rattler" is (as has been described by multiple people) simply one of these with its outer ring broken off:
http://www.sampleslabs.com/pcgs.html
but an otherwise very informative site on slabs.
maybe whoever does the linkly thing can educate me on how it is done.
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<< <i>From Conder101:
Good thread, and the folks who are saying that the dollie rattler is just a PCGS 3 with the outer band removed are correct. PCGS 2, 2.5, 3, and 3.5 are all just regular rattler shells with and extra plastic band placed around them. The band is not attached to the interior rattler shell and can be easily broken off.
PerryHall has the story right about the Regency slabs. For the extra $25 you could put two lines of text on the slab of your choosing with up to 22 characters each. No one answered Broadstrucks' question about when they were produced. The information I got from HRH was 1992-95. There has been some evidence though that it might have been a slightly longer period but I have no confirmation of that.
The easiest Regency slabs to find are the ones from the Danny Kaye collection. A lot of the coins including low value pieces were slabbed in Regency slabs. Easiest is a relative term though, they are still very seldom seen.
Since my book came out and awareness of them has increased, the dollie slabs are becoming more available but they are still scarce. I can now typically find one or two at larger shows. (100 - 150 dealers)
If you would like to post this information to the thread ATS please do, >>
Danny Kaye, as in "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty."?
Cool!!!
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<< <i>Does anyone have a picture of the doily rattler with the outer ring in tact? I thought they just got rid of the rattlers after gen one but now it is sounding like it stayed for a while. >>
I think you're confused.
Rattlers did last one generation only, and so your comment that they 'stayed for a while' is simply incorrect.
Any "Doily rattler" is (as has been described by multiple people) simply one of these with its outer ring broken off:
Well, how about this comment from Condor where it appears in the second and third gen the rattler just had an outer ring attached?
"Good thread, and the folks who are saying that the dollie rattler is just a PCGS 3 with the outer band removed are correct. PCGS 2, 2.5, 3, and 3.5 are all just regular rattler shells with and extra plastic band placed around them. The band is not attached to the interior rattler shell and can be easily broken off."
<< <i>Well, how about this comment from Condor where it appears in the second and third gen the rattler just had an outer ring attached?
"Good thread, and the folks who are saying that the dollie rattler is just a PCGS 3 with the outer band removed are correct. PCGS 2, 2.5, 3, and 3.5 are all just regular rattler shells with and extra plastic band placed around them. The band is not attached to the interior rattler shell and can be easily broken off." >>
I see what you meant now. In that sense, the rattler continued as a component of the next generation slab, but those slabs with the outer ring added are not referred to as rattlers.
<< <i>Whatever happened to Conder101. I always found his posts most informative. >>
He got bammed which is why his slab post cannot be updated since he created it. I just don't understand how PCGS can knock out so many members with so much to contribute for a few words that may have been mentioned in some obscure thread here and there.
<< <i>Whatever happened to Conder101. I always found his posts most informative. >>
He posts regularly on the NGC chat room and he's quite helpful answering questions about slabs and numismatics in general.
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