Another error to explain - Jefferson Proof

stckplunge

Like I have said in previous posts about error - I do not know what constitutes a legitimate error in proof coinage. My last post was the HORIZONTALLY MISALIGNED Adams presidential coin and that was certified as a mint error. I currently have 3 Jefferson proof coins that all exhibit the same characteristics of the scan I am supplying a link to below.

The coin's obverse shows what appears to be a doubled nose with some other strange marks scattered on his face, but the real interesting stuff occurs on the reverse. I have some of them annotated, but you will be able to see the ICA in AMERICA doubled (at least the tops of them - much cleare in person so I apologize for the bad scans). You will also see Liberty's crown repunched into her forhead. There is a gash (doubling of her forearm) as well as some shannanigans going on in the torch area. Liberty's robe also extends below the rim boundary (not listed on scan but readily apparent). There are other things also that I may have missed.

Here is the question - Is this an error or just some type die breakage or machine doubling (dont even know what that is but saw somebody else use the term so I thought I may as well).

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Jeff

Link to crazy nose Jefferson

CaptHenway

Looks like a legit mint error, some sort of second or third strike weak off center during the ejection process. Would want to study at hand for a better diagnosis.
How's the edge?
TD

pontiacinf

another disappointing non-jefferson nickel post

errormaven

Design duplication that's restricted to the design rim in the SE quadrant of the reverse face has appeared on numerous business strike Washington dollars. I've seen at least one example in a later issue. But yours is the first example I've seen where the doubling is also present in the interior of the design. It may well be machine doubling. It could also be "ejection impact doubling", where the finished coin is thrust back into the hammer (reverse) die face that retracts too slowly. It's unlikely to be a weak, slightly off-center second strike, since they're just too common among Jefferson dollars.

All I know is that this form of doubling on the rim only appeared with the Presidential dollar series, with the exception of a single 2004 cent.

It's definitely a keeper.

CaptHenway

Mike.....but have you seen a Proof with this type of doubling?
TD

errormaven

No. This is the first proof I've seen with this kind of doubling. That possibly introduces a complicating factor, as all proofs are struck at least twice. But since this sort of doubling occurs in business strikes that are struck a single time, there's no need to assume that the multiple strikes involved in producing a proof had anything to do with it.

By the way, the edges of the 10 or so Washington dollars I've inspected with this sort of doubling on the rim are perfectly normal.