My first CC Half Eagle - Part 2 (Will Acetone remove the grime on this?)
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As mentioned in part one there was a second CC half eagle purchased with the first. My question is before I crack these out and submit them to PCGS will acetone remove the grime from this second one? most notably a large piece on the star bwteen 9 O'clock and 10 O'clock also a bunch of thin grime on the reverse.
Edited: showing the 91-CC for comparison.
Edited: showing the 91-CC for comparison.
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<< <i>I would just leave it as is. And, again, I would be happy to recommend that coin for a sticker. >>
Even with the gunk on it? I my understanding is correct, acetone will not remove toning or luster, why not make it more attractive?
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<< <i>I do not have any coin chemistry experience, but I have been told that acetone may lighten a gold coin. The specks of dirt do not bother me so long as they are not PVC. Just my opinion; seek others from those who have acetone experience with gold. >>
Edit: If you do use acetone, please provide and after photo so that some of us may learn from it.
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<< <i>If it were my coin, I would use the acetone. It can't hurt it and it should improve it's look. >>
Have you done this with gold before? RYK has a point if it does indeed lighten the coin a bit.
If it does not then I am all for it.
<< <i>Please don't do that to that coin! >>
Why? As the former owner do you have any insight as to what might happen?
I am split 50/50 and can be swung either direction. The 1891-CC coin shown earlier does not have any dirt on it and still has attractive surfaces, is there a chance that that one had an acetone dip at some point?
<< <i>Acetone doesn't usually hurt by itself, it's the application of it that can destroy coins. I've seen people use generic Q-Tips which can leave very visible light scratches on the coin...if you're going to use a Q-Tip, press lightly and make sure it's a name brand with lots of SOFT cotton on the end!!! >>
If I were to do this I would just soak it overnight and let it eat away the organic material.
i like the look of that coin. don't become a coin doctor.
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<< <i>Please don't do that to that coin! >>
Why? As the former owner do you have any insight as to what might happen?
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No I don't. But I rarely do those things. I'm so old fashioned and picky............got an email from a customer the other day (who hasn't bought anything in a while Mr M ) who bought a Hawaiin a couple years ago from me. Told me he showed it to larry sheperd who told him he thought it would upgrade. I sold it as a PQ coin. He resubmitted it and it upgraded. Yay. I'd rather my customers have those experiences than trying to max coins out and be just a mediocre deal.
I'm never confident about dipping coins in anything unless they really need it. Yes Ben, as the "former" owner of those CC half eagles, I liked em just the way they are. I thought both of them were above average for sure. Why take a chance on changing that?
Glad you're happy with them
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All votes but one say no including some members I have significant respect for including the former owner. At least this time around it will go in as is.
Thanks for all of the comments. More are welcome but my mind is now at about 90% set for not dipping.
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Normally, this is what I would have said - "Acetone will not affect the metal. It certainly could remove some organic residues that look like dirt and it could lighten the coin. The case for using acetone would be to remove any surface contaminants which might react with the copper component of the coin and cause real damage."
Now, here's a recent experience I had. I bought a rather attractive toned Morgan at a farm auction. It had been housed in a coin folder, but there was no way to know how the toning occured. I was a bit suspicious of the toning, and since I got the coin for $18.00, I figured that either way, no loss. The coin had some dark toning which progressed into colors, and it looked a little grungy, so I acetoned it.
The result - the toning came off of the high points and the look was destroyed. Would I do it again? Not until I took pictures first and posted them on this board for opinions. I do think that the coin was AT'd, and I haven't lost sleep over it, but it was an unexpected result. My new rule concerning acetone now is - when in doubt, ask first, experiment last.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>I do not have any coin chemistry experience, but I have been told that acetone may lighten a gold coin. The specks of dirt do not bother me so long as they are not PVC. Just my opinion; seek others from those who have acetone experience with gold.
Normally, this is what I would have said - "Acetone will not affect the metal. It certainly could remove some organic residues that look like dirt and it could lighten the coin. The case for using acetone would be to remove any surface contaminants which might react with the copper component of the coin and cause real damage."
Now, here's a recent experience I had. I bought a rather attractive toned Morgan at a farm auction. It had been housed in a coin folder, but there was no way to know how the toning occured. I was a bit suspicious of the toning, and since I got the coin for $18.00, I figured that either way, no loss. The coin had some dark toning which progressed into colors, and it looked a little grungy, so I acetoned it.
The result - the toning came off of the high points and the look was destroyed. Would I do it again? Not until I took pictures first and posted them on this board for opinions. I do think that the coin was AT'd, and I haven't lost sleep over it, but it was an unexpected result. My new rule concerning acetone now is - when in doubt, ask first, experiment last. >>
Very well said and a big reason why I asked first.
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<< <i>If it were my coin, I would use the acetone. It can't hurt it and it should improve it's look. >>
Have you done this with gold before? RYK has a point if it does indeed lighten the coin a bit.
If it does not then I am all for it. >>
It already looks light if the pics are accurate. Also, there appears to be a hazy film. If the coin was darker, I would say leave well enough alone. In this case, I think acetone would improve it and brighten it.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>If it were my coin, I would use the acetone. It can't hurt it and it should improve it's look. >>
Have you done this with gold before? RYK has a point if it does indeed lighten the coin a bit.
If it does not then I am all for it. >>
It already looks light if the pics are accurate. Also, there appears to be a hazy film. If the coin was darker, I would say leave well enough alone. In this case, I think acetone would improve it and brighten it. >>
I have posted the other coin underneath which is a little lighter so now the copper coloring of the 93-CC appears a bit stronger than without the comparison. Not sure brightening is what I would go for, the only goal was to remove the gunk.
Anyhow this will probably stay in my collection for a while, I might experiment on some low grade less expensive liberties to see how the surface is affected.