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- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
<< <i>Ain't this great for the "collector" ??? Edit to add, at least the seller states it's cleaned. >>
Looks nicer than mine. Of course I didn't pay $16k +. Perhaps a little dipping and "album toning" would do it some good....maybe later....much later.
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-Paul
<< <i>i actually like yours better! /ed >>
Thanks. It's tempting to say "Just $16,750 and it's yours" but it's not for sale. --jerry
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<< <i>i actually like yours better! /ed >>
Thanks. It's tempting to say "Just $16,750 and it's yours" but it's not for sale. --jerry >>
well if it ever loses a digit... give me a ring!
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The TPG's quietly net grade cleaned classic coins all the time.
"If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around to hear it. Am I still wrong?"
<< <i>I'm unsure of your point ... but I love how you manage to disparage something you don't like through simple insinuation without being specific - that's a real talent! >>
Thanks for the good words.
<< <i>The TPG's quietly net grade cleaned classic coins all the time. >>
And thanks for the heads up as well.
And kudos to the seller for noting that it had been cleaned and retoned. That's something most people would not have done.
<< <i>I'm unsure of your point ... but I love how you manage to disparage something you don't like through simple insinuation without being specific - that's a real talent!
The TPG's quietly net grade cleaned classic coins all the time. >>
... and they get a sticker. So much for originality on stickered coins.
<< <i>Good gracious, and I thought the 1806/5 Half discussed earlier took the cake. I am shocked that the investors in this new sticker company would allow the graders to run amok like this. I would have thought that now is the time to show everyone that stickered premium quality really means premium quality, but apparently that strategy much like Elvis, has left the building. Come on guys, step it up a bit would 'ya? You really need to be setting a better precedent in order to gain the credibility that you seek.
And kudos to the seller for noting that it had been cleaned and retoned. That's something most people would not have done. >>
Agreed, perhaps for them fellas.... a "sit-down" is in order.
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<< <i>I'm unsure of your point ... but I love how you manage to disparage something you don't like through simple insinuation without being specific - that's a real talent!
The TPG's quietly net grade cleaned classic coins all the time. >>
... and they get a sticker. So much for originality on stickered coins. >>
Now is the sticker good for the grade, or PQ for the grade? Which is it....... this week?!
I'm afraid your post might lead one to believe the coin is AT when it is not. This is the type of coin the TPG's find 100% market acceptable - cleaned long ago and then stored in a Wayte Raymond album for decades. If you don't like the toning, then don't buy it.
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
Alas - I just don't have that same skill set as stman. I'm just not worthy in the non specific insinuation department...
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<< <i>I'm unsure of your point ... but I love how you manage to disparage something you don't like through simple insinuation without being specific - that's a real talent!
The TPG's quietly net grade cleaned classic coins all the time. >>
... and they get a sticker. So much for originality on stickered coins. >>
Now is the sticker good for the grade, or PQ for the grade? Which is it....... this week?!
In this case it means "cleaned and retoned", but still worth "20-40% more".
1) We are market makers and not graders: The advertising and PR implies grading (the whole PQ for the grade thing)
2) are they PQ or just accurate for the grade? It's still not clear to me. The whole "accurate now equals PQ" explanation doesn't fly for me.
<< <i>The problem that I see with CAC is that there is no clear objective from my point of view.
1) We are market makers and not graders: The advertising and PR implies grading (the whole PQ for the grade thing)
2) are they PQ or just accurate for the grade? It's still not clear to me. The whole "accurate now equals PQ" explanation doesn't fly for me. >>
just like the u.s. tax code...use confusion as a diversion while they take your money....
i wonder if they [cac] or their ''network of dealers'' would be pleased after buying that piece at that price ''sight unseen''
after all, that is the market they created, right
If you think that's a personal shot, you're being a little touchy.
<< <i>Me thinks if there wasn't a little thing attached to the slab TDN wouldn't be taking personal shots at me.
If you think that's a personal shot, you're being a little touchy.
Pot calling the kettle black!
I knew it would happen.
Man, for some reason I am getting hungry!!!
Such insinuative speculation off an image - for shame. So far as I know, John Albanese has personally seen every coin with a sticker - why the heck wouldn't he be pleased buying it sight unseen when that's the very criteria he used when he stickered the damn thing? Sheesh!
That's just my opinion, take it or leave it.
<< <i>i wonder if they [cac] or their ''network of dealers'' would be pleased after buying that piece at that price ''sight unseen''
Such insinuative speculation off an image - for shame. So far as I know, John Albanese has personally seen every coin with a sticker - why the heck wouldn't he be pleased buying it sight unseen when that's the very criteria he used when he stickered the damn thing? Sheesh! >>
that's perverted
<< <i>This sticker has gone from signifying PQ to properly graded to cleaned but market acceptable? >>
Apparently, haha. Those stickers have been around only a few months and people are quickly seeing their pointless nature. Personally, I would never want that coin. Cleaned and retoned, how does that equal PQ? More like PU.
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<< <i>This sticker has gone from signifying PQ to properly graded to cleaned but market acceptable? >>
Apparently, haha. Those stickers have been around only a few months and people are quickly seeing their pointless nature. Personally, I would never want that coin. Cleaned and retoned, how does that equal PQ? More like PU.
BUT, BUT, BUT....
<< <i>This sticker has gone from signifying PQ to properly graded to cleaned but market acceptable? If I have this wrong, please correct me. >>
Spot on.
If that is what CAC is all about, I'm not drinking that brand of Koolaide.
I assumed all along that CAC stickering would be like an extra set of eyes - like a Rick Snow or a Julian. I'm quite disappointed.
For the few costly coins that I want to own,Ceteris Paribus, I'd rather pay for truly expert and consistently unbiased advice - even if it costs more.
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Lions and tigers and bears were the first thing that popped into my head. Which made me think of the Wizard of Oz. Which brought this scene to mind. Which happens to capture the OP. Which makes this just about the most aptly titled thread evah. Edited to add: heh heh
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<< <i>Ain't this great for the "collector" ??? Edit to add, at least the seller states it's cleaned. >>
Looks nicer than mine. Of course I didn't pay $16k +. Perhaps a little dipping and "album toning" would do it some good....maybe later....much later.
I actually like this one better than the other, great coin dude
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
You can't pay for entertainment this funny this often.
Jon's post was well stated.
The exchange between Farley and the Parts Guy in Tommy Boy comes to mind when the guy wants the guarantee on the box.
Image gone!!!!
<< <i>Someone sure got on the batphone fast with that one!
Image gone!!!! >>
I'll be damned. The image IS gone. I'm really rather ambivalent about the CAC thing and, in fact, can see some potential benefit. However, yanking the image is really rather chicken shiznit.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Since I missed the image- can someone do a radio play by play and tell me what it looked like? >>
It was pretty fugly. But I know Don has a good eye for pretty halves, doubt he'd have bought it if it looked like the image. More likely than not he saw the thread and wanted to make it look more like the coin.
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<< <i>Since I missed the image- can someone do a radio play by play and tell me what it looked like? >>
It was pretty fugly. But I know Don has a good eye for pretty halves, doubt he'd have bought it if it looked like the image. More likely than not he saw the thread and wanted to make it look more like the coin. >>
How could he make the thread look more like the coin?
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<< <i>Oh, I don't know - the thread's already fugly enough!
Stickerable, though?
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<< <i>Since I missed the image- can someone do a radio play by play and tell me what it looked like? >>
It look sort of like this:
Only it was 39 years older.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>And kudos to the seller for noting that it had been cleaned and retoned
I'm afraid your post might lead one to believe the coin is AT when it is not. This is the type of coin the TPG's find 100% market acceptable - cleaned long ago and then stored in a Wayte Raymond album for decades. If you don't like the toning, then don't buy it. >>
I thought CAC was supposed to OVERSEE the TPGS. what the TPG thought was market acceptable, and who the elite would laugh at as acceptable?
maybe I missed something.
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<< <i>And kudos to the seller for noting that it had been cleaned and retoned
I'm afraid your post might lead one to believe the coin is AT when it is not. This is the type of coin the TPG's find 100% market acceptable - cleaned long ago and then stored in a Wayte Raymond album for decades. If you don't like the toning, then don't buy it. >>
I thought CAC was supposed to OVERSEE the TPGS. what the TPG thought was market acceptable, and who the elite would laugh at as acceptable?
maybe I missed something. >>
No. The CAC was started so some people here can charge a premium price for a coin that doesn't deserve a premium.
<< <i>This sticker has gone from signifying PQ to properly graded to cleaned but market acceptable? If I have this wrong, please correct me. >>
This says volumes.....
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<< <i>And kudos to the seller for noting that it had been cleaned and retoned
I'm afraid your post might lead one to believe the coin is AT when it is not. This is the type of coin the TPG's find 100% market acceptable - cleaned long ago and then stored in a Wayte Raymond album for decades. If you don't like the toning, then don't buy it. >>
I thought CAC was supposed to OVERSEE the TPGS. what the TPG thought was market acceptable, and who the elite would laugh at as acceptable?
maybe I missed something. >>
No, The CAC was invented to put coin doctors out of business since they do not sticker cleaned coins.
Any coin that has been cleaned will be shunned by collectors and the doctors will go broke being unable to sell their altered coins since they will not obtain the treasured sticker.
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<< <i>And kudos to the seller for noting that it had been cleaned and retoned
I'm afraid your post might lead one to believe the coin is AT when it is not. This is the type of coin the TPG's find 100% market acceptable - cleaned long ago and then stored in a Wayte Raymond album for decades. If you don't like the toning, then don't buy it. >>
I thought CAC was supposed to OVERSEE the TPGS. what the TPG thought was market acceptable, and who the elite would laugh at as acceptable?
maybe I missed something. >>
No, The CAC was invented to put coin doctors out of business since they do not sticker cleaned coins.
Any coin that has been cleaned will be shunned by collectors and the doctors will go broke being unable to sell their altered coins since they will not obtain the treasured sticker. >>
I remember something about gradeflation figuring prominently