November Special Grades Poppage (Vintage)

grote15

I'm very pleased overall with these grades, though I was hoping to garner at least one 1975 PSA 10. These were all pulled from wax and rack packs. The PSA 9 Jackson Todd was especially pleasing. (A card is missing from the list No. 19 1973 OPC PSA 9 Roy White.) I actually resisted the urge to check my grades on line and waited till the box came from PSA. It was lots of fun that way!

PSA Order Status for Submission # 629585

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 07317619 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 440 BILLY WILLIAMS IN ACTION 9
2 07317620 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 411 BOB MONTGOMERY N/A 9
3 07317621 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 414 BOB MILLER N/A 9OC
4 07317622 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 425 KEN SINGLETON N/A 8
5 07317623 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 378 CHECKLIST 395-525 N/A 9
6 07317624 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 405 RON FAIRLY N/A 8
7 07317625 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 386 JIM COLBORN N/A 9
8 07317626 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 513 LINDY McDANIEL N/A 8
9 07317627 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 517 KEN BRETT N/A 8
10 07317628 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 287 JIM HARDIN N/A 8
11 07317629 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 329 ROY FOSTER N/A 8
12 07317630 1972 TOPPS 634 DICK WOODSON N/A 8
13 07317631 1972 TOPPS 584 JERRY McNERTNEY N/A 8
14 07317632 1972 TOPPS 719 CESAR GERONIMO N/A 9
15 07317633 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 39 DAVE ROBERTS N/A 8
16 07317634 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 255 REGGIE JACKSON N/A 7
17 07317635 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 296 SPARKY ANDERSON REDS MGR. & COACHES 8
19 07317637 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 314 RON SWOBODA N/A 8
20 07317638 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 624 LEO DUROCHER ASTROS MGR. & COACHES 8
21 07317639 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 533 LARRY STAHL N/A 8
22 07317640 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 547 BOBBY HEISE N/A 8
23 07317641 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 54 CHECKLIST 1-132 N/A 9OC
24 07317642 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 653 JOE HOERNER N/A 8
25 07317643 1975 TOPPS 535 GENE TENACE N/A 8
26 07317644 1975 TOPPS 612 TERRY HUGHES N/A 7
27 07317645 1975 TOPPS 640 HARMON KILLEBREW N/A 8
28 07317646 1975 TOPPS 563 WILBUR HOWARD N/A 8
29 07317647 1975 TOPPS 534 ALEX JOHNSON N/A Not Holdered, Did not meet Minimum Size Requirements
30 07317648 1975 TOPPS 565 JOE TORRE N/A 8
31 07317649 1975 TOPPS 547 VON JOSHUA N/A 8
32 07317650 1975 TOPPS 556 TIM JOHNSON N/A 8
33 07317651 1975 TOPPS 61 DAVE WINFIELD N/A 8
34 07317652 1975 TOPPS 259 LEN RANDLE N/A 9
35 07317653 1975 TOPPS 120 STEVE BUSBY N/A 8
36 07317654 1975 TOPPS 178 CESAR TOVAR N/A 8
37 07317655 1975 TOPPS 149 TIM FOLI N/A 9
38 07317656 1975 TOPPS 239 GEORGE STONE N/A 8
39 07317657 1975 TOPPS 104 BILL MADLOCK N/A 9
40 07317658 1975 TOPPS 111 WAYNE GARRETT N/A 9
41 07317659 1975 TOPPS 76 ED SPRAGUE N/A 9
42 07317660 1975 TOPPS 146 PADRES TEAM JOHN McNAMARA, MGR. 9
43 07317661 1975 TOPPS 397 BILL FREEHAN N/A 9
44 07317662 1975 TOPPS 455 DON WILSON N/A 9
45 07317663 1975 TOPPS 474 LUKE WALKER N/A 8
46 07317664 1975 TOPPS 351 BOB BOONE N/A 9
47 07317665 1975 TOPPS 448 FRANK DUFFY N/A 8
48 07317666 1975 TOPPS 496 PEPE FRIAS N/A 9
49 07317667 1975 TOPPS 347 MIKE CALDWELL N/A 9
50 07317668 1978 TOPPS 622 CHAMP SUMMERS N/A 10
51 07317669 1978 TOPPS 8 MIKE SADEK N/A 9
52 07317670 1978 TOPPS 67 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON N/A 9
53 07317671 1978 TOPPS 481 JACKSON TODD N/A 9
54 07317672 1978 TOPPS 686 GAYLORD PERRY N/A 9
55 07317673 1978 TOPPS 299 WHITEY HERZOG N/A 9
56 07317674 1978 TOPPS 387 KEN HOLTZMAN N/A 10
57 07317675 1978 TOPPS 126 PAUL MOSKAU N/A 9
58 07317676 1978 TOPPS 696 STEVE MINGORI N/A 9
59 07317677 1978 TOPPS 426 FRED KENDALL N/A 9
60 07317678 1978 TOPPS 492 JIM SUNDBERG N/A 9
61 07317679 1978 TOPPS 20 PETE ROSE N/A 8
62 07317680 1978 TOPPS 621 CRAIG SWAN N/A 8
63 07317681 1978 TOPPS 583 GEORGE MEDICH N/A 9
64 07317682 1978 TOPPS 195 LARRY DIERKER N/A 9
65 07317683 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 105 NOLAN RYAN N/A 8
66 07317684 1979 TOPPS 417 STRIKEOUT LEADERS N.RYAN/W.JOHNSON 8
67 07317685 1979 TOPPS 445 STEVE HENDERSON N/A 9
68 07317686 1979 TOPPS 661 BRUCE KISON N/A 9
69 07317687 1975 TOPPS MINI 648 DAVE PAGAN N/A 9
70 07317688 1975 TOPPS MINI 446 BART JOHNSON N/A 8
71 07317689 1980 O-PEE-CHEE 235 GEORGE BRETT N/A 9

Date Received: 12/07/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/13/2007
Date Shipped: 12/13/2007

Robby

Grote
Very nice submission ! Especially like the 1st grade listed - 1972 opc Billy Williams in Psa 9 ! How did you acquire all your OPC cards for grading ? Again , great sub !
Robbie

grote15

Thanks, Robbie, appreciate the kind words. I've been slowly building an OPC set for 1972 and 1973, and all of the cards I submitted to PSA were from wax packs that I've been opening over the last few months.

gemint

Nice job on the 1975s. I've been thinking about resubmitting some of my 8s. I sent them in when they were stingy with handy out 9s. Maybe I'll give it another shot.

FB

Nice job Grote!

I have a couple of 72 OPC specials in right now and I hope that I get your grader. I just had a $13/5 Day special pop and got crushed. The 72 OPC's were still in wax packs last month and just about every card was down a full grade from my expectations and past experiences.

PSA Order Status for Submission # 629018


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 03286943 1971 TOPPS 14 DAVE CONCEPCION N/A 7
2 03286944 1971 TOPPS 20 REGGIE JACKSON N/A 6
3 03286945 1971 TOPPS 100 PETE ROSE N/A 7
4 03286946 1971 TOPPS 250 JOHNNY BENCH N/A 6
5 03286947 1971 TOPPS 300 BROOKS ROBINSON N/A Not Holdered, Miscut
6 03286948 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 299 HANK AARON N/A 6
7 03286949 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 300 HANK AARON IN ACTION 7
7 03286950 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 300 HANK AARON IN ACTION 7
7 03286951 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 300 HANK AARON IN ACTION 7MC
8 03286952 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 445 TOM SEAVER N/A 8
9 03286953 1971 TOPPS 536 CLAUDE RAYMOND N/A 6
9 03286954 1971 TOPPS 536 CLAUDE RAYMOND N/A 7

Date Received: 12/12/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/20/2007
Date Shipped: 12/20/2007

Frank B

gemint

<< <i>Nice job Grote!

I have a couple of 72 OPC specials in right now and I hope that I get your grader. I just had a $13/5 Day special pop and got crushed. The 72 OPC's were still in wax packs last month and just about every card was down a full grade from my expectations and past experiences.

PSA Order Status for Submission # 629018


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 03286943 1971 TOPPS 14 DAVE CONCEPCION N/A 7
2 03286944 1971 TOPPS 20 REGGIE JACKSON N/A 6
3 03286945 1971 TOPPS 100 PETE ROSE N/A 7
4 03286946 1971 TOPPS 250 JOHNNY BENCH N/A 6
5 03286947 1971 TOPPS 300 BROOKS ROBINSON N/A Not Holdered, Miscut
6 03286948 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 299 HANK AARON N/A 6
7 03286949 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 300 HANK AARON IN ACTION 7
7 03286950 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 300 HANK AARON IN ACTION 7
7 03286951 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 300 HANK AARON IN ACTION 7MC
8 03286952 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 445 TOM SEAVER N/A 8
9 03286953 1971 TOPPS 536 CLAUDE RAYMOND N/A 6
9 03286954 1971 TOPPS 536 CLAUDE RAYMOND N/A 7

Date Received: 12/12/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/20/2007
Date Shipped: 12/20/2007

Frank B >>



I hate that. It's a crapshoot. If you crack them all out and get a different grader, you very well could get a grade bump on all of them.

FB

The 2 of the 72 OPC Aaron in Actions were better centered than my PSA 8 with perfect corners. The 71 Rose was so nice I was worried that it might be recolored.

So - as Johnny Cochrane said - "If the grade does not fit, you must resubmit..."

Frank

Mickey71

They are all over the board on rough cuts. If the cut is not severe it should not down grade the card at all. Most vintage should have a natural roughness to them. I've seen the the 49 bowman Paige graded a 6, 7, and 8 that have all looked the same. I sent in a beautiful 49 bowman Robinson that was clean as a whistle and got a 7 due to rough cut. If you get a head grader you will get 8's on rough cuts-bulk submitters you are probably in trouble 6's and 7's.
Thanks,
Mickey71

grote15

I've submitted many OPC cards from the 1972 and 1973 sets with rough cuts, and have found that PSA will not downgrade because of the rough cut. I've gotten many PSA 9s on rough cut cards. They shouldn't downgrade on OPC issues because that's the way they were produced (with airplane wire used for the cutting process). The only time you'll see a smooth edge on am OPc issue from this era is if those cards were cut right after the wires were changed (and they were changed very infrequently), or if the card is sheet cut. Personally, unless I pulled the card myself from a wax pack, I prefer the rough cut because I know it hasn't been sheet cut.

FB

Grote,

Agreed. I love the rough cut myself. And so far, I've gotten a dozen PSA 10's back from PSA in 72's. More than half have some rough edge on them.

Frank

P.S. - As always - if you get dups that you see I need - take a look at my trading set and lets see if we can work something out!

joemaggio

I sent 55 OPC 1972's in last week - all were from wax packs I just bought from BBC Exchange. They all look perfect to me, but I'm sure the graders won't agree. It doesn't look like opening raw packs is the way to go... I spent $700 to buy the packs and around $300 to get them graded... about $20/card.

grote15

I sent 55 OPC 1972's in last week - all were from wax packs I just bought from BBC Exchange. They all look perfect to me, but I'm sure the graders won't agree. It doesn't look like opening raw packs is the way to go... I spent $700 to buy the packs and around $300 to get them graded... about $20/card.

True, unless you can pull a mint star card to offset your grading fees. I was lucky enough to garner a PSA 9 Munson and a PSA 9 Bench IA on my previous sub, but you definitely have an uphill battle to make a profit when submitting OPC cards, as interest in these sets is very slim at this point. Even though they are much less expensive than Topps, the OPC packs don't offer the same upside that Topps packs do.

Still, as a collector, these sets with their rough cuts please me, so that trumps the poor investment return, IMO.