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Breaking news - Bill Parcells to Dolphins as VP of football operations

This team needs a lot of help. I could understand though why he doesn't want to be a coach
again, too many long hours and burnout.

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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Gotta love the Tuna...fish will win 3 games next year and he will call himself the second coming! What a loser.

    JS
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Parcells is way overated IMO!
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Parcells is a winner. In business when you hire winners, it usually works out well. Great move by the Dolphins.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Parcells is way overated IMO! >>



    Let's see...he started with the Giants-turned them into a great team

    went to the Patriots-turned them around, too...

    went to the Jets-turned them around, too...

    left Dallas with a roster he helped build-Romo, Barber, etc...

    Yeah, he's way overrated!
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    sorry turning around a team that won 1 or 2 games the previous year isn't special. Tuna is WAAAAAY overrated. The Dallas
    blowup was icing on the cake.

    JS
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>sorry turning around a team that won 1 or 2 games the previous year isn't special. Tuna is WAAAAAY overrated. The Dallas
    blowup was icing on the cake.

    JS >>



    What? He took the Patriots to the Super Bowl. He took the Jets to the AFC championship, and he got Dallas contending again. How is that overrated?

    Unless you consider any of these situations like Gruden taking over Dungy's team and winning and then getting all of the credit?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Parcells definitely has a big ego, but he is a great coach and talent evaluator. He took absolutely horrible teams and turned them into winners and you can't argue with the record of his success. The Jets, Giants, Pats and Cowboys were all pathetic franchises when he took them over and he brought each of them to the postseason, which is a remarkable feat, IMO. I do think, however, that some of the fire may have dimmed over the years, though, as the fact does remain that since he took the Jets to the AFC Championship Game in 1998, he was won only one playoff game. The fact that he took the Jets, who went 1-15 only 2 years earlier, to the AFC title game in 1998 is absolutely remarkable, though.


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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I have a personal problem with Parcells stemming back to when he did take the Pats to the Super Bowl, he bailed on them as soon as they lost that game to the Pack and didnt even fly home with the team. He was gone like the next day!

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I have a personal problem with Parcells stemming back to when he did take the Pats to the Super Bowl, he bailed on them as soon as they lost that game to the Pack and didnt even fly home with the team. He was gone like the next day!

    No question, he's handled his business affairs very poorly over the years. He did the same to the Jets, vowing he'd never coach again. Parcells has always been out for himself, and though I don't care for him personally, I grudgingly have to give him props as a coach. Plus he is one of the more entertaining guys for writers to quote.


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't confuse not liking the guy with being a winner, in which Parcells clearly is a winner. I'm happy with the way the Eagles are being run, but if the Eagles were a losing team year after year, I'd gladly welcome a Bill Parcells as a VP of football operations.

    Some Eagles fans do this as well, they don't personally like Andy Reid so they don't want him...well I say f* that type of thinking...I don't care if I personally like the coach or not, I'll take a winner and Reid has provided some great winning seasons for the Eagles and I fully expect that to continue in the future.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Sorry, no one paid Tuna big money to get the championship games. They paid him to win championships, which he hasn't done
    lately. Dungy has had the either the one of the best offenses in the league, or the best defense in the league for the past 10
    years.......you think he could get more than one ring out of that huh? Perhaps Gruden is a great coach. If you were a bucs
    fan you would understand that.

    still oVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVerated

    JS
  • Of course Bucs fans hold Parcells in a bad light - he's twice shunned them after nearly being hired as coach. However, it's ridiculous to assert he's overrated in any way shape or form. Dallas was 5-11 for 3 consecutive years before coming to town, and was a blown field goal from going to the second round of the playoffs. Only 5 losing seasons in 19 years of coaching. 2 super bowl wins.

    Kind of ironic coming from a Patriots fan when Belichick had 4 losing seasons out of 5 coached in Cleveland, didn't hold a head coaching job for 5 years, and is likely winless in super bowls without Vinatieri kicking for him.

    Give Parcells his due - you don't have to like him, or his methods, but you have to respect the results.
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,245 ✭✭
    Some rumors are floating around that Parcells will hire Schottenheimer as coach and try and convince Cameron to stay on as offensive coordinator. Not sure how that'll work, but I know that Parcells HAS to be better than the status quo.

    Right now the Dolphins have a #1 pick and two #2s. Maybe J.Taylor will be traded for another #2 and then trade the #1 pick down to pick up an additional #2 which could give us a first round and four second rounders. Could be big! image

    Parcells being overrated...not sure about that. Seems like all of the teams he was involved with come out very successful.
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