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Burglary Report

Attention all California Coin Dealers

On Saturday night 12/15/07 3 black men burglarized the offices of Barry Stuppler & Company at 5855 Topanga Canyon Blvd. Suite 330, Woodland Hills, California. No one was at the location and they broke into the office and vault area at 7pm and took the following material.



133 BU Rolls of Morgan Silver Dollar in white plastic tubes.

The breakdown is as follows.

10 Rolls 1878-S

4 Rolls 1879-S

11 Rolls 1880-S

15 Rolls 1881-O

19 Rolls 1881-S

4 Rolls 1882-S

35 Rolls 1883-O

16 Rolls 1884-P

5 Rolls 1884-O

1 Roll 1885-P

1 Roll 1886-P

2 Rolls 1887-P

1 Roll 1898-O

2 Rolls 1899-O

1 Roll 1900-O

2 Rolls 1902-O

4 Rolls 1904-O



All 133 Dollar Rolls were nice MS60-64 BU Silver Dollars.



Please contact myself and/or West Valley Police Department at 818-374-7611 if you are offered any of the above listed rolls.



Thank you,

Barry Stuppler

818-592-2800

PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Julian--

    You scooped board member Michigan twice so far today. Is it a slow day at the office? image
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Michigan is Julian's alt. He forgot in which id he was logged in. image
  • GrivGriv Posts: 2,804
    That is really bad. Why people have to steal from others and at Christmas. image
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    These were both in emails sent to me and I thought them both worthy of a post.

    I am not terribly busy and can always use more business, in case any readers are long on money and short on coins. I am certain that I will do more retail business in the store this year, but the holiday buyers here in Silver Spring don't spend money on rare coins. They spend money on stocking stuffers, for the most part.

    In case I forget, Happy Holidays to all!!!!!!!!!!
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • If there was no one in the office, how do they know it was three black men?



    TRUTH
  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭


    << <i>If there was no one in the office, how do they know it was three black men?



    TRUTH >>




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  • to barry ,


    sorry about the theft of your coins. its always disgusting to hear of crimes like these. i hope you get back your inventory and they catch the FING SCUMBAGS that did this.

    we as a society have forgotten what the meaning of CHRISTMAS is. ohno the aclu is calling. the meaning of the holiday season. sorry.

    i dont understand these actions. i worked for a living and got hurt. i still dont steal. people like this should be made an example of in the center of town and have their hands removed. violently...
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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    Thanx for your thoughts on prices, Al. I use everything I can find to establish the prices on coins, from Ebay to Guide Books to prices realized to relying on my previous experience.

    The numismatic marketplace is constantly changing. Numismatics will always be a luxury, as well.

    Consequently, I price my inventory, at retail, at all times, but always consider serious offers.

    I also do wholesale business with other dealers and sometimes purchasers that are making an extremely large purchase, but there are no percentage guidelines for these. Some sell for 2% less than retail. Some sell for half of retail.
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>and incidently that is just for pcgs graded coins, many of your coins are raw or ngc. >>



    I'd sooner buy a Julian graded raw coin than a TPG graded coin from many of the dealers out there. You do realize he's a member of the PCGS panel of experts?

    Russ, NCNE
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I talked with Barry yesterday;

    There was a witness on the same floor as Barry's suite;
    he saw the three very large men breaking in with a
    crow-bar, and hid in another office down the hall, and
    called 911.

    The alarm system did work, but they were in and out in
    about 5-7 minutes. After using the crow-bar again on the
    vault-room door, they quickly grabbed the 133 rolls of dollars and fled.

    Yesterday, 18 of the rolls were recovered from a LA coin shop, and
    the person arrested. He claimed that he won them in a poker game
    over the weekend.

    In the parking lot of the coin shop were 2-3 friends, but I'm not sure
    if they were part of the robbery crew, or just some buddies........

    Fred
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Wow! What a haul. Hope they get caught but doubt it will happen. Other high profile B&Ms in the LA area should watch out. Once they find it easy enough.....

    Where are these nice rolls of Morgans when I come around knocking? I'm sure I could pull a number of nice VAMs from 35 '83-O and 10 '78-S rolls.
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  • wow,


    people like this are bad to our society. i really dont get the stealing thing. i always liked workind and paying my own way. i just dont get it.

    Mr. weinberg,

    thank you for all the extra info there. very intresting and digusting at the same time.
    once again barry, i hope they catch them and recover your stolen property.

  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Didn't see Fred's reply before mine. Looks like they're making progress on this one and may get the perps. Barry needs a professional vault room. A crowbar shouldn't be able to breach it.
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Didn't see Fred's reply before mine. Looks like they're making progress on this one and may get the perps. Barry needs a professional vault room. A crowbar shouldn't be able to breach it. >>



    Had the same thought.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Barry needs a professional vault room. A crowbar shouldn't be able to breach it. >>



    I was thinking the same thing. He also needs to add a high decibel ear bleeding inducing audible alarm. That's the only thing that kept my loss to a mininum when my shop was burglarized. Silent alarms are ineffective because the scumbags know they can be in and out before the cops arrive.

    Russ, NCNE
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Idiots probably dumped them out on a table and fingered them all up, in joy over their Bling Heist image
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Update:

    The person arrested had his girlfriend in the car, not 2-3 other men.

    He is currently in Jail, and has not only admitted to being one of the
    people who actually broke into the office, but has reportedly named
    his other two accomplices. That's good news.

    Both the male and female were very nicely dressed; the male in
    a suite and tie.

    Not a bad situation at this point in the week......
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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Well, the good point might be that Barry can get a new (real) vault installed largely paid for by the thieves. Hope the coins are allr ecovered and not messed up.
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  • << <i>Update:

    The person arrested had his girlfriend in the car, not 2-3 other men.

    He is currently in Jail, and has not only admitted to being one of the
    people who actually broke into the office, but has reportedly named
    his other two accomplices. That's good news.

    Both the male and female were very nicely dressed; the male in
    a suite and tie.

    Not a bad situation at this point in the week...... >>



    A friend of mine with LAPD called me on Sunday afternoon about this and basically told me if anyone was offering coins to me- to let him know- I just finished having lunch with him- seems that they do know where the other 2 are at and are in the proverbial process of a bust.

    The sad thing is - the area that Barry is in- is not all that bad- but response time on a Saturday night! He needs more than a vault- I'm thinkin more in the line of a aids infested pit bull male that has not had any in a few weeks.....

    at least they picked the good stuff from Barry.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a firesafe if they were able to get in that quickly.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • an aids infested male pitbull? wow sounds like something i would say. very nice idea.
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139


    << <i>an aids infested male pitbull? wow sounds like something i would say. very nice idea. >>



    Only if he is also continuously high on crack too.
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  • Ouch---that's a substantial loss.

    I'll keep my eyes open.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry to hear the news.

    Where were the good coins hidden?? Sounds like these were sacrificial lambs to protect the real stuff. image
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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad to hear the coins recovered, and some of the thieves apprehended (maybe they did win them in a poker match over the weekend) image Sounds like Barry is going to toss the old ineffective vault door and get something with some more stopping power. A crowbar was all it took to break in?

    I like the high decibel audio deterrent that Russ recommended. Crooks and high decibel noises go together like a cat into hot water. They just don't mix well.

    Tyler
  • I'm so sorry to hear of the financial loss. I am much happier to learn that Barry and/or his people were not hurt in this invasion.

    Sorry to think of myself but this story just reinforces my wife's argument that I must buy security cameras among the many other thing I must to do increase security around our house and also around our coin business. At least our valuable coins are stored off site in a secure location. But I admit that is not enough and I will (New Year's resolution #1) improve security soon!
  • Now the dog ideas are hilarious. Now one of you needs to post a pic of that dog
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  • foaming mouth, crack pipe hanging,blood pouring from every crevice. ewwwww. bad visuals there.


    maybe a hand or two in a meat grinder. that sounds like it would teach those scum a lesson!!!
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only guy meaner is the one that gave it to him. image

    image
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  • oh my god. i need that sign. hahahahahaha thats the funnies thing ive seen in awhile.

    cant wait to show the wife that one in the morning...




    really nice post there lakes...


    adam
  • He claimed that he won them in a poker game

    That must be one helluva of a cash game they have going somewhere.
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just for clarification, the Safes were NOT broken into;
    that would have taken much too long.

    The 133 Rolls of dollars were in the Vault Room, but not in the safe.

    All coin dealers keep coins in the VR, that are too bulky, or not valuable
    enough, to fit into one, two, three, or more safes.



    Fred
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Barry needs a professional vault room. A crowbar shouldn't be able to breach it. >>



    I was thinking the same thing. He also needs to add a high decibel ear bleeding inducing audible alarm. That's the only thing that kept my loss to a mininum when my shop was burglarized. Silent alarms are ineffective because the scumbags know they can be in and out before the cops arrive.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    you just gotta hope you aren't robbed by a deaf thief image
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