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What classic series is going to prosper in 2008?

291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭✭
Classic means pre-1934.

Please give your reasons why.
All glory is fleeting.

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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I don't want to be cute, but any series that is the subject of a well managed promotion. Seriously, what coin series is on the agenda for 2008 by the powers that be? These things truly sicken me, but it seems to be a dealer's birthright.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can't do a promotion without a large quantity of coins which eliminates pre-1834 classic coins.

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  • I think you will see an overall increase in pre 1934 US coinage, the demand keeps increasing and the supply stays the same or decreases.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anything bust that's draped or capped.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anything bust that's draped or capped. >>

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't want to be cute, but any series that is the subject of a well managed promotion. Seriously, what coin series is on the agenda for 2008 by the powers that be? These things truly sicken me, but it seems to be a dealer's birthright. >>



    Ah yes, those well managed promotions. Wouldn't you like to know what the insiders have been buying up recently so they can bury the masses in them next year?
    All glory is fleeting.
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Lincolns in XF/AU.

    -David
  • Mint State Seated dollars, proof seated material, and territorial and proof gold. I've noticed a continuous increase in these series while others were lagging. When the market jumpstarts out of the steady it's currently in, I wouldn't be surprised to see these series performing well.
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,832 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think IHC and Large Cents as they are both showing increases and the closer to 2009 we get, I feel they will be sucked up in the vacuum of Lincolns being in demand once the anticipation starts for the redesign and hopefully the end of the cent. IMHO

    WS
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is unrelenting interest in proof gold, and from my vantage point, not enough material available to promote it. Of course, it is possible that the reason that proof gold has disappeared is that it has been under accumulation, in anticipation of a promotion, but I would be surprised if that were the case.

    Early gold (pre-1834) also seems to continue to rise in price, but there is much more material at the marketplace. Prices are high, and given how relatively available expensive (but interesting) items like 1795 $5's are, I do not see much room for price appreciation.

    With a new book on Charlotte gold expected to be published next year, interest may rise, but I do not see that prices necessarily will, except perhaps for the better date material. This was the case for Dahlonega and New Orleans gold when these books were released.

    Better date $20 Libs (especially non-Shipwreck, branch mint pieces from NO and tougher CC dates, low mintage Philly issues from the 1880's, etc.) have also become scarce in the market and examples at auction seem to regularly sell for more than expected.

    $3's had a sharp rise and then fall over the last couple years and would be ripe for an attempt at another promotion. The common dates are readily available, and the overall interest in 19th century gold series is strong.

    There will be a lot of flowing hair and draped bust halves and dollars sold by Heritage at the FUN sale. Will these saturate the market or will they draw more people in?

    The coins that roadrunner has been recommending, the better date seated quarters and halves in particular, seem to be under strong demand, especially in the mid-grade range and in the collector price point.

    Most of the 19th century material that could be promoted in this market cycle, already has been. The rest is largely too scarce or esoteric, IMO. Perhaps a return to the early 20th century series (buffalo nickels, merc dimes, Walkers, and SLQ's)?


  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no question in my mind that the series that will be huge is early quarters (1796-1838) ... especially the Bust Quarters, 1815-1838. Reason: One or more excellent books on the subject will become available during 2008 that will have collectors clamoring for these coins. Buy the coins now or pay double or more later.
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Bust Quarters

    aside from CBH-dimes and CBH-dollars
  • believe there will be a steady increase and promotion in all things Lincoln - last year of the current design and collectors and investors will be loading up for future years.
    currently putting together a EF/AU/BU 18th & 19th Century Type Set; and CC Morgan Set

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  • SilverstateSilverstate Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭
    Lincoln Cents - It might cover both Classic & Modern time periods, but with the 100 year anniversary on us soon.
    Lincoln Cents are hot and will get hotter!
  • The Bust and Seated Quarters will continue their upward movement through 2008. Bet on it.
    The current prices are still way too low for most of them, although there have been some significant gains this past year for the rarest of them, such as the early CC Seated Quarters.
    As more collectors realize they are undervalued, there will be more pressure on these early Quarters, and the prices will continue to rise.

    Ray
  • I vote for:
    1. Early Lincolns (especially matte proof coins), 1909 P & S Indian Head cents (MS & proof). Both because of the 2009 anniversary, and fears regarding the future of the cent.
    2. Capped Bust quarters. They are much harder to find than their dime and half cousins in dealer inventories.
    3. AU55-MS65 Seated Liberty dollars. Still way too cheap, and the majority of the survivors are either low grade or won't grade.
    4. Proof gold. Targeted by companies (Blanchard, etc.) pushing these to clients with deep pockets.
    5. MS63RD-MS64RD-65RD large cents and half cents. These aren't commonly seen anymore, and are too cheap.
    6. Proof half cents. Underpriced, and uncommon (MUCH less common than post-1857 proof minor coins).
    7. Classic silver commem halves with eye-catching toning (blast-white, common ones will still be dead). These are going for crazy money, with no end in sight. And there are moderate numbers of them (including more recently out of ovens and kitchen labs).
  • For the budget collectors among us I think half cents from 1849 to 1857 in EF-AU are dirt cheap and also liberty seated dollars in VF-EF are also cheap. I am talking about nice no problem coins of course.
  • dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭
    Midgrade Barber Halves in problem free original condition have had very strong results for about half of the dates in the series in 2007 and I see that only getting stronger. We've seen the 1904-s triple in price this year in vf-30 and above, but there are a dozen tougher coins in the set in those grades and they are cheap by comparison. Pcgs price guide just got somewhat real last week but there is much upside. Even still, the thrill of the find trumps the financial thing in my mind because prices can fall again. On the other hand, they'll never mint another 1896-o half dollar.
    I like the seated quarters too.
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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    I agree with a few folks on here in guessing the coming year.

    Brandon's mention of proof seated is right on. Assembling well-matched proof century birth proof sets has not been popular enough and I could imagine becoming so. Boomers are looking at 1842 to 1864 sets then. I'd really like to see more people take on tthat numismatic challenge of personal significance.

    RYK's C & D gold is a good one. That stuff always has a following but sometimes the bigger herd is grazing in another pasture. A new and market accepted reference book always steers them back. Add to that the fact that much of this stuff that is certified has more problems than some might approve of for plastic encapsulation. That could help CAC out; who knows? Nonetheless, I think this is right on target and we might see some surprising numbers for the rarer completelyoriginal pieces.

    1793-1794 large cents and some colonials have some room for further appreciation and a great move in sophistication for some numismatists who have their horns grown 5+ years now.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With gold moving up in 2008 (a no brainer), I think MS64-MS66
    gold type will fair quite well...in particular the 65's.

    $1's, $2-1/2's, $5's, $10's, and $20 Libs. Pass on the Saints.
    I'll take a swag and say the $5 Libs in MS65 are underpriced in
    relation to the $10's and $20's. They should be 20% higher.
    While type gold may not be a flyer like the coins below, the chances of them not going up or going down seems very limited imo.

    Also agree with semi-key date seated (coins with pops in the 75 to 250 pieces known).

    Also like gem MS/proof seated type in 25c's, 50c's and $1's.
    Choice unc or gems of selected dates as well.
    Bust dimes and quarters in 65 or better get my nod as well.
    Bigger is better.

    Of course there's no way to know how well rare coins will do if the economy takes a whallop. Hence my choice of gold type first.

    The coins that roadrunner has been recommending, the better date seated quarters and halves in particular, seem to be under strong demand, especially in the mid-grade range and in the collector price point.

    That figures....as I've been unable to buy any of these above Good.

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    20 cent pieces...........since I just purchased another one, and now have 3.

    JJ
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