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Please grade this Bronze Wilson Dollar

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  • I give it a grade of very cool! I am not sure how to grade a medal... It never circulated, so UNC is the obvious answer. Is there wear from rubbing by being handled or rubbing back and forth in a drawer as it was opened and closed? Not ever having seen another I can't compare it to another. So I guess my original grade of VERY COOL stands image

    Nice piece, I would give it a FM5.5 ms68 out of a FM7.0 ms70(Fonzy Meter five and a half mint state 68)! Do you have any history to share with it?
    Thanks for showing it to us!

    Rick
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  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    First of all this isn't a dollar...perhaps dollar size but there isn't a denomination of any sort associated with it

    Medals don't have grades assigned to them for the most part. "As Cast", "As Struck" are usually associated with the highest rating if there is a need to have one. When I sell medals I associate a grade of Gussfrisch (as cast) and VZ/ vorzüglich (extremely fine), both German terms since I sell German medals, but this is done only to assure the potential customer and for no other reason.

    If you really need a grade for some reason I would say vf/ef due to the cabinet wear and scratches, but hey, it's a medal and it was made to be handled and studied....that's what's so cool about them.

    BTW, nice medal...I've only seen Wilson from the Germans point of view... image

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  • I don't know the history of this medal, but according to Lyman Allen catalog there are 3 type of metals that were produced that year.

    Silver - mintage 2200
    Bronze - mintage 3700
    Gold - mintage 3

    Mostly are seen sea salvage and are corroded so badly as these medals were also part of the dumping in Manila Bay.
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  • USAROKUSAROK Posts: 887 ✭✭✭
    For reference, mine was graded AU58BN by NGC:

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  • FilamCoinsFilamCoins Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭

    Too much rub and too many hits for MS. Maybe AU-55 BN but a nice example. Although mintage of bronze is higher than silver, they often go for higher premiums. Tougher to find in better condition. An MS red specimen would fetch many, many mutiples of thousands, possibly 5 figures. Can't imagine there are many out there. An important coin is any so-called dollar collection.



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