Is $18.60 excessive shipping for 15 half dollars- ebay purchase- UPDATE- some of coins rec'd!
kevinstang
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So the other night I won 15 different auctions from the same seller for some fairly common Walking liberty halves, shipping was listed as $4.60 each auction, but the seller stated he would combine shipping for multiple auctions won within a 3 day period. Well the coins came to a little over $80, but now the seller wants $18.60 to ship them priority mail- kinda of steep when I figure they can go in a flat rate envelope for less than $5 or even in a flat rate box for less than $9.00. What is worse, the only reason I bid on the coins is for my brother, he had already bought 10 coins when he got blocked from bidding on anymore because of a bidder block the seller had set up for relative newbies to ebay (which my brother is). He wants $13.60 to ship his ten coins as well. I asked the seller if he could ship them together even to save money ( I know that may not be what a seller would want to do- but we live in same town, same street address just different po box numbers).
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In this case, if he clearly stated $4.60 S&H per auction, you're not really in a position to complain unless you made some different agreement with him prior to the auctions ending.
<< <i>Did the seller list a price for each additional item in the listings (ie. $5 for the first item, $1 for each additional item), or not? >>
No he did not state a price for each additional item in auction, only that he would combine shipping for items won within 3 days, didn't sound that bad. Normally I would have asked what the additional shipping would have been, but my brother only got a hold of me to bid minutes before the auctions were ending and there was no time to ask seller- it was late Saturday night.
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Although if there is substantial insurance necessary then you are out of luck and as someone else mentioned he did substantially reduce shipping from what it could have been.
If you dont sell on eBay you don't understand the fees.
<< <i>You could report to e-bay that he charges excessive shipping. Or at least threaten to since it is against the rules.
Although if there is substantial insurance necessary then you are out of luck and as someone else mentioned he did substantially reduce shipping from what it could have been. >>
I had a similar situation a few weeks ago. spotted some coins just before they were going to end. Not enough time to ask questions.
Seller ended up wanting $10 per item on 7 items!!! When I spoke to an ebay rep. they looked over the listings and told me "While the S&H is certainly on the excessive side, you agreed to his terms when you bid on his items"...
The rep went on to suggest that I contact the seller by email or phone and see if we could work out a more reasonable charge. He ended up coming down to a much lower figure but I still paid way more than I should have.
Lesson learned... ask questions before bidding... if I don't then I must deal with the consequences...
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<< <i>You could report to e-bay that he charges excessive shipping. Or at least threaten to since it is against the rules.
Although if there is substantial insurance necessary then you are out of luck and as someone else mentioned he did substantially reduce shipping from what it could have been. >>
I had a similar situation a few weeks ago. spotted some coins just before they were going to end. Not enough time to ask questions.
Seller ended up wanting $10 per item on 7 items!!! When I spoke to an ebay rep. they looked over the listings and told me "While the S&H is certainly on the excessive side, you agreed to his terms when you bid on his items"...
The rep went on to suggest that I contact the seller by email or phone and see if we could work out a more reasonable charge. He ended up coming down to a much lower figure but I still paid way more than I should have.
Lesson learned... ask questions before bidding... if I don't then I must deal with the consequences...
I try to charge shipping/ins that is close to the actual cost (without knowing ahead of time) and am usually within $1 either way (I lose more than I gain).
However, I do know that if someone went whining to ebay about my auctions, ebay had better cancel the auction after the fact because there is NO WAY in he** that I would want to do that person a favor.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>You could report to e-bay that he charges excessive shipping. Or at least threaten to since it is against the rules.
Although if there is substantial insurance necessary then you are out of luck and as someone else mentioned he did substantially reduce shipping from what it could have been. >>
I had a similar situation a few weeks ago. spotted some coins just before they were going to end. Not enough time to ask questions.
Seller ended up wanting $10 per item on 7 items!!! When I spoke to an ebay rep. they looked over the listings and told me "While the S&H is certainly on the excessive side, you agreed to his terms when you bid on his items"...
The rep went on to suggest that I contact the seller by email or phone and see if we could work out a more reasonable charge. He ended up coming down to a much lower figure but I still paid way more than I should have.
Lesson learned... ask questions before bidding... if I don't then I must deal with the consequences...
I try to charge shipping/ins that is close to the actual cost (without knowing ahead of time) and am usually within $1 either way (I lose more than I gain).
However, I do know that if someone went whining to ebay about my auctions, ebay had better cancel the auction after the fact because there is NO WAY in he** that I would want to do that person a favor. >>
I would not consider the tone of the conversation I had with the ebay rep as "whining" ...I was simply inquiring as to the actual ebay rules...
I had NEVER had any seller try to overcharge me and I have made many purchases on ebay. I would say I was shocked when I saw the invoice.
To be honest, I should add that there was no way in he## I was going to pay $70 S&H. If push came to shove, I would have accepted NPBs on the whole deal rather than pay such an absurd amount.
As a seller, the most I have ever charged for S&H was $18...that was for a package I sent out today... 1st Class, Insured, Registered w/ Sig Conf ... actual cost was $18.21... for almost $2000 in value...
Soooo...when someone tries to charge me $70 for less than $700 in value...well, call it whining, if you must...but there is absolutely NO WAY I'm going to pay that...
<< <i>stand by for the bleeding hearts to reply about their time in lines, gas, tires, oil, lunch, and INK
Why do you think a businessman has no right to recover the costs involved in a transaction?
<< <i>See your local coin dealer. Spend your time in your car to find your coins. Forget shipping charges altogether. Use your gas and your noggin. >>
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>I think he is giving you a discount. Yea Flat rate is cheaper. If you didnt ask for a discount from him before. He could have charged you more. Give your guy a break. See if he delivers like stated.
If you dont sell on eBay you don't understand the fees. >>
I do sell on ebay and when I do sell coins I do basically the same as this seller- $1 dollar each additional item, but stop at what a priority flat rate box charge is - haven't seen too many coins that couldn't fit one. I think I am going to ask him to ship them first class mail- he said he also offered that option for cheaper shipping- at least that way he will have to use his own packing supplies
<< <i>It's your own fault. If the seller didn't specify the discount for each additional item, you should have asked before bidding >>
Actually not mine- my brothers- he got me into it- his coins. I just feel this guy is giving him the shaft on the shipping.
On a side note while checking to see if any past complaints, I did just note something funny in his feedback- one of the coins he sold Saturday night- and I am talking late Saturday night - after 10pm, a 38-D half, that I also bid on for my brother, has already gotten him positive feedback as a seller? Earliest he could have possibly mailed it would be today, so how can the guy have already left him feedback? The post office must be real fast where he lives.
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for a full roll of walkers. Insurance would be extra. Oh, my!
bob
The seller *did* combine shipping... just not as much as the OP wanted. If there was any doubt as to what combined shipping would be, why were there no inquiries made prior to bidding or buying? The buyer bears some responsibility here as well.
Considering that Heritage, Teletrade, and other auction venues routinely charge that much to ship one coin, I guess they should be tarred and feathered too? No of course not... we don't mind that double standard around here. It's perfectly fine for an established B&M dealer to charge exorbitant S&H. After all, they're a real business which makes it all ok.
<< <i>What is worse, the only reason I bid on the coins is for my brother, he had already bought 10 coins when he got blocked from bidding on anymore because of a bidder block the seller had set up for relative newbies to ebay (which my brother is). >>
And this is the seller's fault exactly how?
As far as the request to ship both your and your brother's separate auction purchases together: no way in hell (assuming you're paying with PayPal). Why? By shipping both together, the seller leaves himself vulnerable to a PayPal chargeback on whichever payment does not have the tracking number associated with it. Multiple payments = multiple shipments. Period. EOD.
Multiple eBay userIDs = separate payments, so making a single payment after the fact would not work either (or it would raise big red flags in the mind of the seller).
Bottom line is that you (or your brother) should have contacted the seller IN ADVANCE and asked how best to proceed on a large-volume purchase. Trying to arrange things on your own terms after the fact simply doesn't cut it... sorry.
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<< <i>As far as the request to ship both your and your brother's separate auction purchases together: no way in hell (assuming you're paying with PayPal). Why >>
No really? I am not stupid, I asked him/told him just split the shipping between the two auctions and we will each pay with our own paypal accounts. The stuff is just bullion basically, where not talking the high end market stuff here, where I where would want more secure packing and not have any problem with a higher rate of shipping. My brother tried to contact the seller earlier, he was slow in responding, as he is now as well, and it wasn't till auction was over. In the end where going to end up paying over 32 dollars to have 25 half dollars shipped to same building. I'm guessing they will probably arrive in a flat rate envelope or two based on the initial $4.60 per auction shipping listed via priority mail.
Try to remember to get the seller to specify next time. Also keep in mind when he has someone send him an email saying they are interested in buying multiple items it gives you a little more leverage.
i think his shipping was a bit steep but he did discount it.
but to not ship things acurrately? geez. more trouble then it was
worth.
<< <i>stand by for the bleeding hearts to reply about their time in lines, gas, tires, oil, lunch, and INK
Come on Goose, you taught me to use that line!!!
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<< <i>stand by for the bleeding hearts to reply about their time in lines, gas, tires, oil, lunch, and INK
Why do you think a businessman has no right to recover the costs involved in a transaction? >>
Because they're not businessmen. they like to buy things at a loss. --jerry
<< <i>Well here's an update, I went ahead and paid and hoped to just forget about it and chalk it up as a lesson learned. Rec'd the coins today for my brother- well should say rec'd 14 out of 15 ! He shorted a coin at that! Still waiting to here back from him with his reply. I've also found that in the past the same seller had a bad dealing with another member on this forum from reading a post just the other day- seems he's not much on ethics. >>
It's easy to do. Remember he's probably dealing with dozens of auctions not just your 15. It happens to honest sellers all the time and they make it right. Lets hope this guy is one of them. --Jerry
you won what 10 auctions + an additional 15 and his shipping is $4.60 per item. i'm going to imagine that he was sending this to you via priority mail- becuz that is the going rate right now for PRIORITY. so with the 15 items at 4.60, lemme see here a moment- that would be 69 bucks my friend, then let us add the other 10 coins at the same price of 4.60- ummm that will be 46 dollars total- so your grand total is.....$115.00 - 25 coins right?
So by him coming down to $18.60 you feel that is excessive..18.60 / 15 or 1.24 a coin- damn that is just highway robbery.
I think EVERY one who sells on ebay should ship the items for FREE with insurance and have it delivered by the very next day at the least- wether I have paid you for it by check, fake money order, or a paypal account that I can turn around and demand my money back instantly becuz you MR. SEller of the coin- were to damn high on your shipping cost- and I don't give a hoot if the post office is 29 miles from your home- MOVE closer to the friggin P.O.!!
So Mr ebay buyer of the 15 coin (half dollars I might add)- you need to tell this guy you are mad as hell and you won't take it anymore..
or any less.
Do I sound a bit sarcastic?
<< <i>i think his shipping was a bit steep but he did discount it. >>
<< <i>but to not ship things acurrately? geez. more trouble then it was worth >>
You said it, never thought buying cheap coins would be the problem on ebay- always worried about the expensive stuff.Have to add he just emailed and said it was a mistake and will ship the coin out tomorrow, so hopefully all will be done and over with this seller by next week. By the way, the shipping on the envelope I recieved today- $4.60, it was not in a flat rate however. Be glad when its done, I guess I have been lucky in my ebay selling, never forgot to ship something someone paid for in over 1700+ sales.
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<< <i>That does not make him or her a bad E-bayer just a good business owner >>
I've got well over 1700 positive feedbacks on ebay from selling and know I have never charged anyone nearly 4 times the actual shipping just to make a buck. Guess my standards and those of many here are different and if they can sleep at night that makes it alright
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<< <i>That does not make him or her a bad E-bayer just a good business owner >>
I've got well over 1700 positive feedbacks on ebay from selling and know I have never charged anyone nearly 4 times the actual shipping just to make a buck. Guess my standards and those of many here are different and if they can sleep at night that makes it alright
I'm curious now- what is your ebay handle- with 1700 Positives- I'm sure a few here would like to see what you sell and if your shipping is fair.
it does cost money to sell, even on the bay.
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