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  • sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 863 ✭✭✭
    I'd have to agreeimage

    I have the Uncirc. versions of both the Dollar and the Half Eagle. I love these coins
    for their artistic legacy, and of course the message of the stability of "Old Granite" during
    the difficult time of the quake.
  • 23Pairer23Pairer Posts: 911 ✭✭✭
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  • Nice Pixs 23Pairerimage

    Anyone have an actual pic of the "Granite Lady" as it looks today?

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,516 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This will be a sought after coin in 50 years.image

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    Very pretty ....I agree!!!!!!! image
  • Ok, I did a Google Images search...This should add some historical perspective:

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  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This will be a sought after coin in 50 years.image

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    A lot less than that, I predict. I think this whole issue was a sleeper and has a lot going for it. Great pics!
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Go gold SF!!!
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭
    For some reason I like the looks of the unc better than the proof. gives the "classic" reverse a classic look.
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  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This will be a sought after coin in 50 years.image

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    I agree. Now if I can only live to be 102 years old, so I can sell mine for a profit.image
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have em both, love em
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  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    I agree the MS looks the best!image Anyone know what the mintage limit was supposed to be? I know it was a very late release which in turn kept the mintage relatively low. Had they released it earlier it, most likely, would have sold out.
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the MS look better than the PR also, although the PR looks nice too.

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  • I have the coin in Proof as well.

    I like the coin.
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    may have been reinforced
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was watching an auction and a PR70DCAM went for 299 about three weeks ago. I have an MS70 and wanted to complete the 4 coin set in 70
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,125 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is my question to the engineers reading this, as you view the SF quake photo of the mint it is rather interesting not only that the mint withstood the quake but the two smoke stacks did too, one would have thought that those two tacks would have come down for sure. Any theories? >>



    The odds were "stacked" in their favor?? image
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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The gold and silver unc. are two of my favorite modern commems.
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  • Yes, to complete the set!
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The SF Mint is an example of early attempts to lessen earthquake and fire damage in the United States. It had an advanced foundation design that not only allowed the building to "float", but also provided for an independent water supply in the event of fire and/or municipal water outage. These expensive add-ons in construction ultimately served to save the building from not only the earthquake, but also from the devestating fire that followed.
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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    You just have to love the reverses on that series!

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  • The outside water supply was actually an artesian well located inside the courtyard of the SF Mint complex. They had a water pump in the boiler room which provide the pressure to the upper floors. With two large tanks on the roof, that water was gravity fed to the basement floor for two hoses.

    The water delivery system and hydrants on each floor were completed about 10 days before the earthquake and fire which began on April 18, 1906. This information comes from the "Recollections of a Mint Director" book by Frank Leach, pgs. 46-47.

    Wouldn't it be strange if the as yet undiscovered cornerstone was placed on the bottom of one of the two smokestacks...
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,633 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Y'know, as much as I've railed against modern recycling of old designs, I liked it on these coins.

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  • << <i>This will be a sought after coin in 50 years.image

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    It better not, I ditched all of mine!! image
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  • Not by me!! I'll be gone by thenimage
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  • sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 863 ✭✭✭
    I have the NGC70 Unc on both the Silver and Gold. Nice Coins.
    I wonder why the Proof Dollar is more expensive in 70?
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Y'know, as much as I've railed against modern recycling of old designs, I liked it on these coins. >>



    Wow, quite a big admission!

    There's something alluring about both the $1 and $5.
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • Maybe I picked up one of yours recently, Smitty 79? Just last week I purchased an UNC $1 on the bay for only $20 - what a bargain! The silver coins may just be a sleeper...but I love the obverse best, even though the reverse is from a Morgan $1. Just something about that 'granite lady' architecture.

    CB
    --Craig
  • I like the design also, have both MS and PR dollars. I've been by the old mint but didn't have my camera at the time. It's still a very solid looking building.


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  • I have several of the $5 UNCs - I think it is the key of the set.... A few raw, and a PCGS MS70 of course image
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is my question to the engineers reading this, as you view the SF quake photo of the mint it is rather interesting not only that the mint withstood the quake but the two smoke stacks did too, one would have thought that those two tacks would have come down for sure. Any theories? >>



    Yeah when they started shaking everyone ran outside to hold them up. image
  • Collectors or Error(variety) Speculators?

    I don't believe that I am actually a collector but rather a person who started(recently 2006) amassing a small amount of ASE's and some silver and gold commemoratives as well as the mint silver yearly coin issues and did get what I thought was a good price for some early Silver Prestige Proofs at the Santa Clara show recently.

    I guess I am doing so in hopes of having some additional resourses for either my retirement or leaving it for the family to fight over. image

    I was and probably still am a collector of Casino Silver Strikes. However, probably due to the price of silver and most casino's going coinless and they don't want to pay out their resources for the production, repairs, and filling of the machines, the Silver Strikes are now rapidly disappearing from the casinos. The good thing is that these Silver Strikes contain about .6 grams of pure silver so they will always carry that value.

    Back to my original thought.

    I was not going to buy into the U.S. Mint's 2008 burnished ASE due to the silver price droping and the mint not changing the pricing. However, with the release of the 2008 issue and it's 2007 reverse issue, I did purchase 12. I also received the other day an early birthday gift of a sealed box of 6 from my sister.

    None had the 2007 reverse. OH WELL we tried.

    I am wondering why people are willing to pay over $300 for an ASE with an estimated mintage of 47,000 (US Mint estimate) instead of using that money to buy for instance a 2006 Old San Francisco Mint $5 Gold Uncirculated coin (mintage 16,149 even less with SilverTowne's melt report) with an estimated current intrensic gold value of $215 for less than the 2008/2007 ASE variety with an intrensic silver value of $17.00?


    2006 Old San Francisco Mint - Final production numbers

    Uncirculated Silver Dollar: 65,609

    Proof Silver Dollar: 207,248

    Uncirculated Gold Half Eagle: 16,149

    Proof Gold Half Eagle: 41,517

    2006 American Legacy Set: 48,452


    I do understand the 1995-W ASE low mintage, but this is not a variety in my opinion. For a collector to have a complete collection, this one would need to be included. Does a variety of an issue need to be in a collection to make it complete?

    I understand the issue of supply and demand thing that there are probably more collectors of silver than gold but would a true coin collector be buying into the error/variety thing? I would think the true collector would be more interested in having the gold coin with fewer available than the 2008/2007 ASE.

    I am guessing that it's the speculators that are driving force behind the 2008/2007 ASE variety issue.

    Oh well, just thinking out loud here.

    I just hope that the U.S. Mint revises the gold prices for the Gold Buffalo coins issue. Also, since this issue is going to be a bullion issue I hope they will be available to the general public on their website instead of only their dealer network.

    Like the original poster states... IN 50 YEARS! image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,343 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Y'know, as much as I've railed against modern recycling of old designs, I liked it on these coins. >>



    Agree. This is one of the few cases where it's actually appropriate since an old mint is being commemorated.

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  • MrScienceMrScience Posts: 746 ✭✭✭
    Here are some pictures from a trip in late 2006. The Lady is bruised but unbroken....

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  • jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    thanks for the pics!

    what a great place/city to visit.
  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    Yeah. Nice pics. This issue is interesting in so many ways:
    * great history
    * classic designs
    * relatively low mintages

    In fact, this issue seemed to be about the last issue before the real frenzy of hoarding by speculators that manifested itself as a result of the 2006-w burnished die plats, the silver and gold reverse proofs, etc... If I had to guess, I'd say that Jamestown, early First Spouse, and the reverse proof plats would be only about half their realized mintages without this speculation bubble. Now, though, the price of gold and platinum are going to crush new mintages back to where they ought to be in terms of real collector demand. Or to put it another way, I think this issue was overlooked.
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  • duck620duck620 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭✭
    i sure hope it"s sooner,won"t be here in 50 yrs.image i have both unc (ms-70) & proof (ms-70)
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    You just have to check those dates! image I paged down only to find my early images... I have my MS70 dollar with the reverse forward in the pcgs holder.
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  • coasterfancoasterfan Posts: 1,302
    Note that the Mint Project, which was a beneficiary of the sale of these commemorative coins, is scheduled to open to the public in 2012. I can't wait for this museum to open. That, plus the new California Academy of the Sciences in Golden Gate Park opening in September 2008, will be must-see attractions.

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  • Thanks for the pics. I only live about 30 miles away. I haven't gone over to the big city in about 2 years. Time to do a short vacation to see the sights. This weekend sounds like a plan. AH dinner on the Wharf! image

    Anyone know of some good coin shops in SF?

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