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Have there been any world class athletes who, during their careers, also excel at other endeavors?

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
Or does the time, work and effort of being a world class athlete preclude one from excelling at other things?

For example, has a world class athlete ever excelled at music, singing, writing, movie making, science, business, law, medicine, religion, politics and/or hobbies, etc. during his or her career? If so, please identify them and give a summary of what else they do.

I can recall a couple of all pro football players who also pursued and obtained law degrees while playing. Namely Alan Page of the Vikings and Steve Young of the 49ers.

I do not think Steve Young has practiced law. Alan Page started practicing law either during the latter stages of his career or after he retired from the game. After being a practicing lawyer for a while he became a judge and eventually became a Minnesota Supreme Court Justice. That is very impressive in my opinion.

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  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    How do you mention shaq with his steller movie career and grat rapping abilities?!. I guess Rod Smith has a succesful home construction business.
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I attended Page's first game at ND and saw him block a punt. The other name that came to mind was Justice Bryon Whizzer White.

    Bryon White was a college football star at the University of Colorado, where he acquired the "Whizzer" nickname. He signed with the NFL's Pittsburgh Pirates (now Steelers), playing there during the 1938 season and while he took off the 1939 season to study at Oxford he but returned to play for the Detroit Lions for the 1940 and 1941 seasons. He lead the league in rushing yards in 1938 and 1940 and was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame in 1954

    After graduating from Yale Law School first in his class and clerking for Chief Justice Vinson and returned to practice law in Colorado until the 1960 Presidential campaign when his notoriety in football got him named to head the John F. Kennedy campaign in Colorado. When Kennedy won White got the number 2 position at the Justice Department under Robert Kennedy and was Kennedy's first selection to the Supreme Court in 1962.
  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    Hunter Pence is rumored to be a world-class World of Warcraft player.
    Curt Schilling owns a software production company.
    Reggie White was an ordained minister.
    How about Jim Bouton? Did he write Ball Four while still playing?

  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There have been several political figures who were athletes. Off the top of my head, there is -

    J.C. Watts
    Bill Bradley
    Steve Largent
    Jim Bunning

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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chuck Conners played for the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1949, and for the Cubs in 1951. Not only that, but he played for the Boston Celtics from 1946 to 1948. He was also drafted by the Chicago Bears. So, he played for or was drafted by MLB, NBA, and the NFL. He went on to become The Rifleman.

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  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    Moe berg was a spy, that is pretty sweet.
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Frankhardy:

    Great Chuck Connors knowledge. In addition to being Lucas McCain (or "Pa") in The Rifleman, he also acted in Hollywood movies including one of the Doris Day movies in the 60s, the title of which I do not remember [She played a woman who was marooned on a desert island for years, during which time her husband (James Garner?) got a court order declaring her dead and remarried, and then she was rescued and came back into the picture during her husband's honeymoon with wife #2. The tension in the movie initially was directed from Doris Day to her husband (how could you marry someone else?) until her husband found out that while marooned in the island Doris Day was not alone. She was marooned with Chuck Connors, a hunky stud muffin]. One of my wife's favorite movies.

    Whizzer White was a great football player who also had a great legal career.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Roger Staubach (business), Ted Williams (fighter pilot & fly fishing legend), Jim Brown (helping kids).
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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I forgot about Ted Williams.

    Chuck Conners also played in the classic kids movei Ole' Yeller.

    Shane

  • Per wikipedia, Fred Dryer had a pretty good career at SDSU then into the NFL before playing "Hunter" on tv. Of note, his SDSU teammate was Carl Weathers.
    Weird.
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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's also:

    Jack Kemp - All-Pro quarterback for the Bills and Chargers, then Congressman, HUD Secretary and ran for President
    Ron Mix - HOF lineman for the Chargers, then began a law practice (still there). Also created a series of football HOFer autographed cards
    Gerald Ford - Played football at the University of Michigan, then 38th President
    John Wayne - Played football at USC, then went into acting
    John Berardino - Played for the old St Louis Browns, then had long acting career (mainly on General Hospital)
    Merlin Olsen - HOF lineman for the Rams, then went into acting
    Alex Karras - lineman for the Lions, then went into acting
    Billy Sunday - baseball player (appeared in the N172 Old Judge set), then became a world-renowned evangelist
    Steve Arlin - Pitcher for the Padres, was a practicing dentist in the off-season and after he retired from baseball

    Steve
  • Mike Vick - dogfighting

    OJ Simpson - killing
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< also excel at other endeavors? >>>


    Wilt Chamberlain...uh, never mind.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Willie Gault was a world class sprinter and Wide Reciever.
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice list guys, I learned something new as well. John Wayne graduated from my high school here in Glendale (way before my time), but he was part of one of the most successful football teams in our school's 100+ history. Good that someone mentioned him.


    Max Schmeling--World Heavy Weight Boxing Champion from Germany. Extremely popular in the 30s and 40s. After WWII, starving and poor, did some boxing to earn a living then started some business projects in Germany and became a very quiet millionaire. He lived to be 99 years old--his existence for the last two decades were so quiet, I had no idea he lived this long. He died just a couple of years ago--very recent. Although tainted as a Nazi fighter just because of the era Germany went through, over the years, more and more people simply saw him as one of the greatest fighters of Germany and the world. He lost a fight against Joe Louis in a fight that proved who was number 1 at the time. As a gentleman with class, when Joe Louis passed away, Schmeling ensured that he receive a fitting funeral (Louis died poor).

    Katarina Witt--German Figure Skater, HOF, two time Olympic gold medalist and extremely attractive to boot. She has done acting, written a novel and now has her own TV-Show in Germany. Still very attractive and active in her 40s. Very good head on her shoulders and does much in way of humanitarian work.


    Eric Heiden--US speed skater, won multiple Olympic Gold, now a successful surgeon.
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  • " Mike Vick - dogfighting

    OJ Simpson - killing "

    LOL!
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a whole bunch of these names don't pop into my mind when I think "world-class athlete" but maybe that's me and my narrow definition of world-class athlete. High school or college football just doesn't mean world-class to me.
  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a whole bunch of these names don't pop into my mind when I think "world-class athlete" but maybe that's me and my narrow definition of world-class athlete. High school or college football just doesn't mean world-class to me.

    Also most of those names listed excelled at other endeavors after their sports careers were over, not during like the question stated.

    Having said that, I did star on my junior high school basketball team and then went on to a lucrative career as a professional DVD cellophane unwrapper.
  • I would say that anyone that played US professional sports are considered world class.
    And even if the original question stated excelling at something during a career, the examples given by sanction didn't occur during their careers either.
    Fun question, but there are very few guys that can excel at 2 different things when one of them is professional sports. Shaq dominated the NBA and released rap albums and had roles in several movies (Kazaam, Blue Chips), but you could argue that he didnt excel at those. He did them. but he certainly won't be remembered for his music or his appearances in film. Wait, he is a sheriff reserve or something like that now too, so I guess he is making an impact there.
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  • How could no one mention Moonlight Graham? He was also a doctor.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    aaah that reminds me--Chuck Conners actor-----1st base for the Dodgers.
  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭✭
    Bob hayes was an olympic gold medal winner 2x over and held the 100 meter WR. His speed would change defenses when he entered the NFL.
    BTW max smelling was not a nazi......actually many from germany were not. He secretly hid jews in his apartment and requested extra rations "as training food" to feed them. That could have put his life in jeopardy. I think that puts him in a hero class by itself.

    Jak kemp was also a high ranking politician.
    burt reynolds played college Fb at florida state

    Many athletes went off to fight ww2 besided ted williams. 2 major league BB didn't come back. several high profile players were in major battles...feller...and spahn was wounded in action.

    many became actors: rosy grier, don meridith, fred williamson, lou gerhig did one movie....
    joe namath, fred dryer, roman gabriel, besided the ones mentioned.
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  • I know Moe Berg was mentioned (spy) but I don't think it was noted he was an attorney too.
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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    Doc Medich, Pirates pitcher, jumped into the stands in Philly during a game and gave a guy CPR, the guy didn't make it but Medich spent 30+ minutes on him.

    Medich also worked on Whitey Ford in the dugout after he collapsed, and also saved a guy in the stands with CPR and mouth to mouth in Texas.

    Not a world class athlete, but definitely a world class human.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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