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Is this PCGS VF-20 1799 $1 on eBay Cleaned/Authentic?

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,664 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it's a Chinese fake... in a PCGS slab. image

    (Seriously, though- you bring up an interesting point- that thing looks like it was cleaned to hellenback... with baking soda!)

    Edit: on second look, I still say cleaned, but perhaps not so harshly.

    The planchet flaw is interesting.

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah...the cert# comes back to a 1989 $5 in MS-69...
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.


  • << <i>Yeah...the cert# comes back to a 1989 $5 in MS-69... >>



    wrong
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry- case of morning dyslexia. It does come back to a 1799 $...
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • you need more coffe?
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Haven't had any yet. That's the problem.
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.


  • << <i>No, it's a Chinese fake... in a PCGS slab. image

    (Seriously, though- you bring up an interesting point- that thing looks like it was cleaned to hellenback... with baking soda!)

    Edit: on second look, I still say cleaned, but perhaps not so harshly.

    The planchet flaw is interesting. >>





    wow. i thought is was in bad form to clean coins because it could reduce the coin's value.

    i also thought that i heard from someone or read something that said pcgs was the highest regarded and most respected grading/authentication service that applied the strictest practice of grading standards.

    if this coin is really harshly cleaned why is it in a pcgs holder. maybe this ebay vendor should return it to pcgs for a re-do on the mulligan grading tier. i also read that pcgs has a cash back guarantee for the sight unseen trades. would the buy back be applicable in this situation if i purchase this cleaned PCGS VF-20 1799 $1 on eBay. or does ebay void any implied warranty.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    as for being cleaned, hard to tell. some pictures show a coin
    in a really bad light. the pic may be showing off every little
    defect possible...

    sorta like when you take a pic of a P01 coin. Those are also
    hairlined to heck and back and only the honest folks show it
    like it looks in the worst case scenario. other folks tilt it just a wee
    bit and poof, there go the problems.
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most experienced collectors of early US coins from this era estimate 95-100% of the coins have been cleaned, dipped, or otherwise messed with. This one is obviously dipped or lightly cleaned, but should be authentic. It is a neat error.
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Egregiously cleaned. Should not be in a slab.

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