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Is this 1799 $ on eBay authentic?

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  • My initial reaction is it looks too good. Possibly tooled to enhance the details. I would have to do check my reference books.....
  • There's another thread concerning this seller called "ebay seller mtc3015....keep a CLOSE eye on this guy". It's currently on page two.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,664 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks okay to me. I mean, it passes the test on the first thing I look at on 1799 dollars... there's no broken R in LIBERTY, for starters.

    If it's a fake, it's a wickedly good one.

    I think it is an authentic coin. Now, is it totally 100% original and untampered with?

    I don't know. I do not notice any obvious signs of tooling, as previously mentioned.

    Bear in mind, however, that the sum total of Bust dollars I have personally owned adds up to one coin.

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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My initial reaction is it looks too good. Possibly tooled to enhance the details. I would have to do check my reference books..... >>



    My initial reaction is that the feedback looks too good. Not the percentage rating, but the overwhelmingly over-the-top comments about how wonderful the seller is, just lead me to stay away. Read the seller's feedback and determine for yourself what you want to do.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭


    << <i> My initial reaction is that the feedback looks too good. Not the percentage rating, but the overwhelmingly over-the-top comments about how wonderful the seller is, just lead me to stay away. Read the seller's feedback and determine for yourself what you want to do. >>




    i did read them...only one or two multiple buyers were gushers in the feedback...i know people like that.

    had a few as buyers.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin in the picture appears to be genuine.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I was considering bidding on this seller's 1818 randall horde cent until I read the auction details. I don't get a good feeling about this one. --jerry
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    The coin itself looks real to me, but then again, today's fake coin producers are getting too good for me to ever buy a coin like this raw.
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Before venturing in the the world of raw early dollars on ebay, read this Counterfeit early dollars, also also buy the Reiver early dollar book, or better the Bowers/Borckardt ED book (much more expensive) and learn how to attribute early dollars by die marriage, this will eliminate 90% of fakes. The are some very deceptive cast and transfer die fakes that can be hard to detect from an image, the edge lettering is tough to fake but you can't see it on most images. You can't do a ring-tone test or weight test for a cast fake, or see the subtleties of die markers to check for transfer die fakes.

    There are many early dollar fakes on eBay. I have been collecting raw draped bust half dollars on eBay since 1999, there are few contemporary or modern half fakes or alterations on eBay, but I have seen some, especially 1807's tooled to appear as 1801's.

    The coin is most likely genuine, but until you become an expert at ED attribution, why risk it? Save some more money and buy a nice ED from an established dealer.
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I agree that the coin pictured is absolutely genuine!!
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    She looks legit. She was on ebay last week too but the auction was nixed with just a couple hours to go. Bidding is stronger this time around. She was at $1300 with maybe 3 hours left last week.

    A couple years ago, I won one of the notched R fakes. Seller promptly refunded my money. What a relief.
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Any time I read the following in an auction description, I RUN in the opposite direction:

    "Sorry NO PAYPAL or credit cards, items sold as is and all sales final as estate settlement does not allow for returns."
  • The coin looks genuine.....but judging by the wear on the eagles wings and then looking at the shield..the shield sure looks like it has been tooled..

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