If it has left the mint, it is CIRCULATED!!!!!
LonerAnger
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At least, that's the tenet I'm going to adopt from now on.
Never FAILS! Especially on a 5 figure coin. I don't care HOW "sweet" it is, you're going to have SOMEONE "think" it's been "worked on."
And in many cases, they're RIGHT.
I just "sold" a nice coin. Oh sure, the books all list the characteristics and yada yada....BUT.... a BUYER..
HAH!
"I think "something" has been done to it."
And in many situations, that is CORRECT! I know a guy who can get a whole BUNCH of "strange" stuff into slabs. And they look GOOD. Certainly no way to tell it THROUGH the plastic. And darned hard ...OUT of it.
Now it might be OK if you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that you AND ONLY YOU will be the one to sell the coin.
But if an heir or assignee has to, just be prepared to face holy hell.
What about STICKERS? Oh...hee hee...sure.... UNPROVEN! "Let's see how the "market" treats em in a few years...yada yada..........blah blah blah"
Do as you wish. But FOR ME.... if I ever.....EVER....cough up 5 or more figures for a coin again, it will be a sweet crusty CIRC! And RARITY alone will be the price factor.
This process is painful.
It's DONE, and to the good, BUT..... NOT WORTH THE HASSLE!
This is MY opinion only. (that's a foolish statement as it is OBVIOUSLY mine alone)
Never FAILS! Especially on a 5 figure coin. I don't care HOW "sweet" it is, you're going to have SOMEONE "think" it's been "worked on."
And in many cases, they're RIGHT.
I just "sold" a nice coin. Oh sure, the books all list the characteristics and yada yada....BUT.... a BUYER..
HAH!
"I think "something" has been done to it."
And in many situations, that is CORRECT! I know a guy who can get a whole BUNCH of "strange" stuff into slabs. And they look GOOD. Certainly no way to tell it THROUGH the plastic. And darned hard ...OUT of it.
Now it might be OK if you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that you AND ONLY YOU will be the one to sell the coin.
But if an heir or assignee has to, just be prepared to face holy hell.
What about STICKERS? Oh...hee hee...sure.... UNPROVEN! "Let's see how the "market" treats em in a few years...yada yada..........blah blah blah"
Do as you wish. But FOR ME.... if I ever.....EVER....cough up 5 or more figures for a coin again, it will be a sweet crusty CIRC! And RARITY alone will be the price factor.
This process is painful.
It's DONE, and to the good, BUT..... NOT WORTH THE HASSLE!
This is MY opinion only. (that's a foolish statement as it is OBVIOUSLY mine alone)
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I'll stick to the stuff under $500 most of the time, and leave the five-figure pieces to the big boyz.
What if the coin is in an ORIGINAL mint bag and NOT even touched by human hands?
True, uncirculated is a variable state with there being gradations to "how" uncirculated a coin might be and thus the numbering system for mint state. Coins start getting marks from the moment they are struck, bounce into the hopper and are transferred through bags, etc. into the distribution system, etc., etc.
Well, just Love coins, period.
<< <i>OK, easy....A bit of holiday frustration perhaps. >>
You'd expect otherwise from smoebody named "LonerAnger"?
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<< <i>OK, easy....A bit of holiday frustration perhaps. >>
You'd expect otherwise from smoebody named "LonerAnger"?
Truer words have never been spoken...
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<< <i>OK, easy....A bit of holiday frustration perhaps. >>
You'd expect otherwise from smoebody named "LonerAnger"?
I know...what's next....LongerAcres?
Truer words have never been spoken...
Actually, these words might be truer:
I don't care who touched it or when...if there's a fingerprint, it's circulated.
I knew it would happen.
circulated:
Verb
Inflected forms: cir·cu·lat·ed, cir·cu·lat·ing, cir·cu·lates
Definition for "circulated" continued:
Verb
intr. 1. To move in or flow through a circle or circuit: blood circulating through the body. 2. To move around, as from person to person or place to place: a guest circulating at a party. 3. To move about or flow freely, as air. 4. To spread widely among persons or places; disseminate: Gossip tends to circulate quickly.
Definition for "circulated" continued:
Verb
tr. To cause to move about or be distributed: Please circulate these fliers.
Definition for "circulated" continued:
Etymology
From Middle English circulat, continuously distilled, from circul*tus, past participle of circul*re, to make circular, from circulus, circle ; see circle.
Other forms
cir'cu·la'tive adj.cir'cu·la'tor n.
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<< <i>OK, easy....A bit of holiday frustration perhaps. >>
You'd expect otherwise from smoebody named "LonerAnger"?
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
<< <i>What if the coin is in an ORIGINAL mint bag and NOT even touched by human hands?
True, uncirculated is a variable state with there being gradations to "how" uncirculated a coin might be and thus the numbering system for mint state. Coins start getting marks from the moment they are struck, bounce into the hopper and are transferred through bags, etc. into the distribution system, etc., etc. >>
And sometimes they even come with fingerprints too....
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
The OP simply stated that I am sick of the GAMES that surround the CONDITION coins.
And my username would be different if anyone could have spent the effort to correct the glitch in the sigline link in my old one.
Sheeeze.
some original bags of Morgan Dollars. On the very top
of one bag, was a flawless silver dollar. When Larry showed
it to me, I grabbed the coin and said "It's sold and it's mine!"
I paid 1500 dollars for a coins that at the time in Gem
condition was worth perhaps 400 dollars. Two years later,
I auctioned the coin in a Goldberg Sale and it went for 27,000
dollars. The new owner had PCGS grade the Morgan and it came back
as a MS-69. The coin shortly thereafter was sold for in excess of 60,000
dollars. Miracles really can happen to coins shipped out from the Mint. Perhaps
rarely, but they do happen. As I remember it, this was the first Morgan Dollar graded
MS-69 by PCGS.
Camelot