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NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Quality, price, etc...

1806/5 "Amazing Appearance"
Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks cleaned to me...but it couldn't be because it's stickered....


    Seriously, there's a certain way I expect an XF coin to look- any coin- and bright white with no toning or crud in the protected areas isn't it...
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    From the photos the coin looks horrible.image
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, it does have some "color" little do-dads on the rims. So it has to be a WOW coin with the sticker and all.
    I sure am glad they are saving us collectors from all the evil out there. image
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  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope that coin doesn't look that bad in person.
  • 1794half18391794half1839 Posts: 505 ✭
    It looks dipped, then started to retone when slabbed. However, the in hand look of the coin may be better than the photo.
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    I wouldn't even think of owning that coin.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Terrible photo. The blue slab insert looks white, at least on my monitor. Perhaps the coin is also a little better in person. At any rate, the price is astronomic, about twice what I would expect to pay for one in XF-40.

    Edit to add: I am having trouble seeing the 2nd "C" in the sticker. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Triple post
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Double post
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • 1794half18391794half1839 Posts: 505 ✭
    RYK pointed the color on the label. The colors on the camara or Photoshop are off. Since thats the case, perhaps the coin needs to be viewed in person before it is labeled as unappealing.
    Greg Cohen

    Senior Numismatist

    Legend Rare Coin Auctions
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know this is a bad photo as well. I'm just having a hard time deciding which coin I want. The one in the OP, or this fingerprinted mottled mess in 67.
    "Amazing"
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  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭
    It doesn't matter what the coin looks like, It's the sticker thats Important.image
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I know this is a bad photo as well. I'm just having a hard time deciding which coin I want. The one in the OP, or this fingerprinted mottled mess in 67.
    "Amazing" >>



    I like the Morgan better. image The second "C" is better struck/printed. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That has good detail for an XF as those come weak as a rule. In fact the detail on that coin is solid XF45 or slightly better.

    Just happens that I also have one of those in XF40 in a PCGS 40 holder than is no doubt XF45+ (netted 40 for strike I guess). It is also lightly cleaned as this one is. The only difference is that mine cost me less than 1/2 of what that dealer is asking.

    roadrunner
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Detail is very good for the coin.

    However, from the picture, it does look cleaned (dipped probably a few too many times),

    and honestly, I don't like the look of it, at all.
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  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What does the sticker mean?
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Looks to be dipped out junk. I'm glad the sticker helped me steer cleer image
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No...thank you...please.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It appears that some of the responders know very little about coins. I did some research and came up with the following:


    << <i>In every field, there are a select few that represent the best of the best. Coins are no exception. Now there's an easy way to identify premium quality coins within any particular grade. Just look for the CAC verification sticker. >>




    << <i>Third-party grading services have revolutionized our industry by evaluating the condition of coins. Evaluations, however, can be subjective and over time, coins of varying quality have received the same grade. That's why leading members of the numismatic community formed CAC - to identify and formalize the existence of premium quality coins. >>




    << <i>We only consider previously graded coins, submitted by CAC Submission Centers, and will only award our sticker to those coins that meet our standards for premium quality. >>

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't like it from the photos.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,640 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It appears that some of the responders know very little about coins. I did some research and came up with the following:


    << <i>In every field, there are a select few that represent the best of the best. Coins are no exception. Now there's an easy way to identify premium quality coins within any particular grade. Just look for the CAC verification sticker. >>




    << <i>Third-party grading services have revolutionized our industry by evaluating the condition of coins. Evaluations, however, can be subjective and over time, coins of varying quality have received the same grade. That's why leading members of the numismatic community formed CAC - to identify and formalize the existence of premium quality coins. >>




    << <i>We only consider previously graded coins, submitted by CAC Submission Centers, and will only award our sticker to those coins that meet our standards for premium quality. >>

    >>


    It appears painfully obvious to me now that I need the protection of a fourth party observer to protect me from my faulty decision making paradigm in this hobby. Thank you indeed for pointing this embarassing characteristic out to me.image
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,640 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It appears that some of the responders know very little about coins. I did some research and came up with the following:


    << <i>In every field, there are a select few that represent the best of the best. Coins are no exception. Now there's an easy way to identify premium quality coins within any particular grade. Just look for the CAC verification sticker. >>




    << <i>Third-party grading services have revolutionized our industry by evaluating the condition of coins. Evaluations, however, can be subjective and over time, coins of varying quality have received the same grade. That's why leading members of the numismatic community formed CAC - to identify and formalize the existence of premium quality coins. >>




    << <i>We only consider previously graded coins, submitted by CAC Submission Centers, and will only award our sticker to those coins that meet our standards for premium quality. >>

    >>


    It appears painfully obvious to me now that I need the protection of a fourth party observer to protect me from my faulty decision making paradigm in this hobby. Thank you indeed for pointing this embarassing characteristic out to me.image
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • DeusExMachinaDeusExMachina Posts: 1,325 ✭
    I believe the sticker helps to "lock in" a sight unseen bid from a select group of dealers.

    I would recommend jamming that coin back to them.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont get it--PCGS??? That coin either is awful!! or maybe the photo is just bad? Looks way overcleaned and chemically burnt or something other than natural--but once again- it may just be the photo? CAC means nothing--it will not be long before fake stickers and fake fourth party CAC copiers enter the fray.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this same coin (and several others that ebay seller also lists) are also listed at similar prices in an ad in this month's Coin World

    not sure if any relationship exists between the owners of these coins and the organization that puts adhesive labels on slabs,

    but I'm not crazy about this coin at this price; it does have loads of detail but the surfaces are a little too bright for a circulated 200 year old dbh

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