Does this look like shill bidding to you all?

Rampage

I was just poking around eBay a bit and saw a coin that looked really familiar, as if it has been listed some times over and over. So, I start looking, and sure enough. Same coin, multiple listings. Same winning bidder for the last two searchable times.

Here is the coin currently listed: current

Here is the same coin that closed December 2: Winning bidder: wdipickle

Here is the same coin again that closed December 9: Winning bidder again is wdipickle

Here is another example:

A 1903 Micro-S being going on now: 1903S

Same coin closed December 9:
wdipickle won this one, too

Here is wdipickle's bid history: bid history

It looks like V.B. Coins was shilled. Isn't he a forum member?

So, I was also looking to see where to report this to and have not found it. Can someone please report?

If it appears I am overreacting, please do say. I have been known to blow things out of proportion.

Thanks, Richard.

lkrarecoins

I absolutely know that seller...He's outbid me a few times on some Morgans that I really wanted

He's a flipper....Cherrypicks a coin and re-sells it right away, sometimes.

Good detective work, btw...you may be on to something

Barndog

I love seeing good detective work

Rampage

<< <i>I absolutely know that seller...He's outbid me a few times on some Morgans that I really wanted

He's a flipper....Cherrypicks a coin and re-sells it right away, sometimes.

Good detective work, btw...you may be on to something >>



I know that seller quite well, too. He, too, has outbid me numerous time before. Most of my cherries were for Hot Lips and also the Micro-S Morgans. I had no idea until this that he was such a scamster.

Btw, I have beat him to the punch on cherries before, too.

dbldie55

Why would someone put a high opening bid on an item and then shill it. Does not make much sense to me.

(disregard, I guess he has a high opening bid now but not when first listed)

direwolf1972

Dont know the buyer or the seller. So I cant say much on a personal level. But by the looks of it I would assume the same thing. They are certainly either:

A. eating a huge amount of listing and FV fees

or

B. going to need a new schilling account soon since they are filing mutliple NPB claims on wdipickle.

Rampage

<< <i>Why would someone put a high opening bid on an item and then shill it. Does not make much sense to me. >>



Look closer dbldie55. The two pre-scarfaces he opened at $9.99 each. Then, his lovely shill bidder came in, entered high bids and retracted, then bid them up again. Check out these two comments below. One is from one auction, and the other is from the second auction.

Number 1:

wdipickle( 9 ) Retracted: US $216.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Dec-09-07 12:03:16 PST
Retracted: Dec-09-07 12:13:06 PST


Number 2:

wdipickle( 9 ) Retracted: US $348.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Nov-29-07 22:57:05 PST
Retracted: Nov-30-07 10:17:27 PST

dbldie55

<< <i>

<< <i>Why would someone put a high opening bid on an item and then shill it. Does not make much sense to me. >>



Look closer dbldie55. The two pre-scarfaces he opened at $9.99 each. Then, his lovely shill bidder came in, entered high bids and retracted, then bid them up again. Check out these two comments below. One is from one auction, and the other is from the second auction.

Number 1:

wdipickle( 9 ) Retracted: US $216.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Dec-09-07 12:03:16 PST
Retracted: Dec-09-07 12:13:06 PST


Number 2:

wdipickle( 9 ) Retracted: US $348.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Nov-29-07 22:57:05 PST
Retracted: Nov-30-07 10:17:27 PST >>



I caught that after the fact (and edited my post)

BlindedByEgo

Looks like he won the same coin twice, but seller is still selling it - and after dipickle left positive feedback?

Smothing smells fishy, really fishy... The smell of the rotting underbelly of Ebay shenanigans

Barndog

someone at ebay should get this thread to make paying the piper a lot easier

19Lyds

Blatantly BUSTED!

Boothill40

I see both players are located in Ohio, seller in Cuyahoga and the bidder in Strongsville, could it be they know eachother

DuPapa

<< <i>I see both players are located in Ohio, seller in Cuyahoga and the bidder in Strongsville, could it be they know eachother >>



You know what they say about coincidence.
31 miles between Strongsville and Cuyahoga Falls.
I'd guess yes.

ArizonaJack

Great Job !!!!
I love it

Barbercoin

Ya know..... If it walks like a duck ......

Appreances are EVEVERYTHING.

Good eye you have there, sir.

LindeDad

<< <i>31 miles between Strongsville and Cuyahoga Falls. >>



I drive further than that to work every day. Wonder if the seller does? Puts you on different ISP's in most cases and that is about the only way eBay has of tracking blatent shilling.

Connecticoin

Quack Quack!!

Reported.

Rampage

one more time.

Connecticoin

And here is Ebay's response:

Rampage

<< <i>And here is Ebay's response: >>



What was eBay's response?

garsmith

<< And here is Ebay's response: >>

<<What was eBay's response?>>













































































Exactly, dont you love the sound of silence!

pb2y

<< <i>And here is Ebay's response: >>



Can you please post eBay's reponse again.

pb2y

Never mind. Looks like the seller was done in
by the long arm of Forum members.

sonoranmonsoon

nice detective work!

mojoman

Good job this one is on me


I think that got the "WEINER OF THE WEEK AWARD".
you would think with open feedback someone was going to catch on to them ?
but "THEY" didnt think lol