I bought Jojosportsheaven’s TRIMMED cards: HELP!!

waxman2745

Hello All, my name is Adam and I am new to these forums. I have been an avid collector for a few years, and I recently have fallen victim to jojosportsheaven’s trimmed cards.

I know that this subject has been beaten to death, but I was wondering if you knew how to get a full refund from this seller, and if so, how to do so without paying their ridiculous 20% restocking fee. I read all the threads that I could find and noticed that PSASAP and vintagetoppsguy had the same bad experience with this seller and managed to get their money back.

This seller is a fraud and should stop stealing people’s money.

Here are the links to the ebay items that I won (I hate how all his transactions are “Private”)

1971 Topps #630 Bob Roberto Clemente NM+
1971 Topps #5 Thurman Munson NM-MT+ to Mint
1968 Topps #177 Nolan Ryan RC NM+ to NM-MT

I feel like such an idiot especially after I read a thread about the trimmed Clemente…I just didn’t read the thread until it was too late; I already had these worthless cards in my hand when I read these threads.

Thank you for your help,
Adam
1971 Topps #630 Roberto Clemente NM+
1971 Topps #5 Thurman Munson NM-MT+ to Mint
1968 Topps #177 Nolan Ryan RC NM+ to NM-MT

theczar

DON'T PAY HIM!

If he neg's you do it back at him.

waxman2745

I already paid him and received the cards. After I calmed down a little from anger at the destroyed Munson and Ryan, I left a negative and in the process, ruined my 100% feedback rating when he retaliated with a negative. I'm not too worried about the feedback, just the money

Buccaneer

So many red flags...

j4664s

julen23

red flags indeed...

sometimes it is necessary to get burned b4 you see w/o rose-colored glasses.

i have been there & done that too my friend, live & learn.

get high also (that helps me personally)

julen

goose3

How did you pay?

WinPitcher

Hi and welcome to the boards. Sorry this happened to you.

Did you pay via paypal? if so, did you use a CC?

If you did you may have a remedy with them.


Steve

waxman2745

Hello, and thanks for the welcome. Unfortunately I paid with a check. The shady seller only accepted checks and money orders (plus all of their feedbacks and listings are "Private").

I should have known not to bid, but the eye-appeal of the Munson and Ryan cards drew me in.

If you look at the ebay username jojosportsheaven, you will see that they received 3 negatives in 2 days (the one I gave them yesterday and two today).

Thanks for your time,
Adam

goose3

check with your bank and see if they can do some sort of a chargeback on the check. The fee for that won't be nearly the screwing you'll take by returning the cards.

Worst case scenario, return them but mail them insured (so he has to sign) and with Del. Con.

marz

guy is too stupid to know that "alterted" means ungradeable this "NM" and "EX?MT" ET do not apply to his cards.
and he lies stating he including such terms as altered which he did not. He merely stated he does not gaurantee third party grading......yet can assure you they are NearMint! What a guy. How does he have all those feedbacks given this!

joemaggio

Adam - you might as well return them, at least you'll get 80% of your money back.

Personally, I will never bid on anything if the seller hides his feedback and I rarely bid in private auctions. You should do some research to see if he ran your bids up in addition to screwing you with the trimmed cards.

WinPitcher

Joe, I think Adam is passed the 7 days the description allows. Also he has left a negative.


Steve

mariner

It looks like the listings have disappeared from ebay.

waxman2745

Yep, I just checked and saw that they were removed as well. I think ebay got to this seller because they are no longer a registered user. This is great news, but I don't know if and how that will affect the people who left negatives from getting refunds.

WinPitcher

What bothers me about this whole jojo thing is many of the cards he trimmed would have still fetched decent dollars if left alone. The Ryan rookie for instance, even at a PSA 5 level gets 200+ So, for a lousey 60.00 he ruins a card, his reputation and whatever. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.


Steve

waxman2745

Steve, my thoughts exactly. The gloss on the Munson was unbelievable. If it wasn't trimmed it would have probably gotten at least a PSA 7, maybe 8 because the centering was very good (not like a 90-10 or 80-20). I've seen PSA 7 Munsons go for about $100 on ebay, and that's what I paid for the trimmed Munson card.

grote15

At least the dirtbag has been NARU'd. Sorry to hear he stole your money like that.