(1) Anything that proves to be not truly rare in the absolute or conditional sense but is currently priced as if it is.
(2) Average toners that wow the novice.
(3) First Strikes.
(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs.
(5) SCDs (and not saying that is necessarily good)
One I am not sure of is the area of US National Bank Notes. Wouldn't take too much thinning of that specialized market to crash it to where it was not far back, nearly complete disinterested obscurity. More references would refuel interest.
<< <i>Wouldn't the platinum coins have to had been popular at 1 time before they fade from popularity?
I agree that platinum prices can drop a lot once palladium or something is used in cars >>
Palladium is used in gasoline catalytic converters but does not have the properties to be used with diesel engines. Platinum is one of the most versatile metals when it comes to manufacturing and I understand that 4 out of 5 household products used platinum at some time during its manufacturing. Both gold and platinum are heavily used in the jewelry market but much is also lost to the electronics market even though the Chinese have been reclaiming these metals but at terrible environmental costs.
Platinum and gold will always be valuable as they are the 2 most versatile metals we have. Buy often and buy a lot!
<< <i>(1) Anything that proves to be not truly rare in the absolute or conditional sense but is currently priced as if it is.
(2) Average toners that wow the novice.
(3) First Strikes.
(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs.
(5) SCDs (and not saying that is necessarily good)
One I am not sure of is the area of US National Bank Notes. Wouldn't take too much thinning of that specialized market to crash it to where it was not far back, nearly complete disinterested obscurity. More references would refuel interest. >>
Extremely good point. This is where a lot of "investors" and some collectors need to exercise a great deal more care. While it might apply more to some modern conditional rarities than other areas, it should still drive collectors to seek some fundamental knowledge about what thy are buying. If a coin is high priced then it should usually not be seen very frequently. Demand has to be weighed as well but be leery of common wisdom and pop reports. If a coin has a large premium in high grade then you should look at enough coins to see that a premium is justified. If the coin of your dreams is available for far less in a slightly lower grade and the difference is invisible or inconsequen- tial to you then it's a safe bet that others might feel the same.
Coins are no investment but no one wants to lose on them either. You can collect almost anything with little or no real risk other than market risk if you just pay attention and use common sense.
<< <i>(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs. >>
There are many older holders that have been in old time collections since the late 1980's so there are exceptions. Each coin has to be judged on its own merits.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
We have a winna! Serious collectors will look back upon this escapade as the Pied Piper era of collecting. Any thing to squeeze a buck out of the hobby no matter how ridiculous it is.
<< <i>(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs. >>
There are many older holders that have been in old time collections since the late 1980's so there are exceptions. Each coin has to be judged on its own merits. >>
The point of the OP is a matter of popularity. I see a dilution of the overall intrinsic value palced on them in the sense that coins in these holders are specifically promoted as such. (I just bouhgt one such coin.) I agree there are plenty stillout there in older collections, like my own. This goes for old ANACS slabs too. I have had some for many years that I feel are generally superior to what is commonly in the same grade at what are now considered the top two TPGs.
Earlier dated First Strikes in 10 years will command a high premium. I know that in 10 years from now if I wanted a 2007-W $25 Gold Eagle I would purchase the First Strike variety if I can afford one 10 years from now.
Like I said before. The US is a follower on this designation. Try purchasing a set of these.....
<< <i>(1) Anything that proves to be not truly rare in the absolute or conditional sense but is currently priced as if it is.
(2) Average toners that wow the novice.
(3) First Strikes.
(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs.
(5) SCDs (and not saying that is necessarily good)
One I am not sure of is the area of US National Bank Notes. Wouldn't take too much thinning of that specialized market to crash it to where it was not far back, nearly complete disinterested obscurity. More references would refuel interest. >>
I agree,
Ericj96
Extremely good point. This is where a lot of "investors" and some collectors need to exercise a great deal more care. While it might apply more to some modern conditional rarities than other areas, it should still drive collectors to seek some fundamental knowledge about what thy are buying. If a coin is high priced then it should usually not be seen very frequently. Demand has to be weighed as well but be leery of common wisdom and pop reports. If a coin has a large premium in high grade then you should look at enough coins to see that a premium is justified. If the coin of your dreams is available for far less in a slightly lower grade and the difference is invisible or inconsequen- tial to you then it's a safe bet that others might feel the same.
Coins are no investment but no one wants to lose on them either. You can collect almost anything with little or no real risk other than market risk if you just pay attention and use common sense. >>
Not a prognostication but do want to see if there will be settling in the huge price discrepency between coins with single point variance ( ie, a debatable "67" bringing multiples in price over the same coin in "66"). I would think that huge price jumps may be fewer and further between.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
Comments
<< <i>In 10 years what US numismatic item will fade from popularity >>
The Presidential Wives Series....!!!They will be forgotten and be traded away for the Mistress Series.....!!!!...
I agree that platinum prices can drop a lot once palladium or something is used in cars
<< <i>"Monster toners." At least I hope they fade. I have never been able to understand the craze for "toned" coins. >>
You hope they fade? Taking it personally? What other people collect really bothers you, huh?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
(2) Average toners that wow the novice.
(3) First Strikes.
(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs.
(5) SCDs (and not saying that is necessarily good)
One I am not sure of is the area of US National Bank Notes. Wouldn't take too much thinning of that specialized market to crash it to where it was not far back, nearly complete disinterested obscurity. More references would refuel interest.
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SSDC - Life Member
ANA - Pay As I Go Member
<< <i>Wouldn't the platinum coins have to had been popular at 1 time before they fade from popularity?
I agree that platinum prices can drop a lot once palladium or something is used in cars >>
Palladium is used in gasoline catalytic converters but does not have the properties to be used with diesel engines. Platinum is one of the most versatile metals when it comes to manufacturing and I understand that 4 out of 5 household products used platinum at some time during its manufacturing. Both gold and platinum are heavily used in the jewelry market but much is also lost to the electronics market even though the Chinese have been reclaiming these metals but at terrible environmental costs.
Platinum and gold will always be valuable as they are the 2 most versatile metals we have. Buy often and buy a lot!
<< <i>(1) Anything that proves to be not truly rare in the absolute or conditional sense but is currently priced as if it is.
(2) Average toners that wow the novice.
(3) First Strikes.
(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs.
(5) SCDs (and not saying that is necessarily good)
One I am not sure of is the area of US National Bank Notes. Wouldn't take too much thinning of that specialized market to crash it to where it was not far back, nearly complete disinterested obscurity. More references would refuel interest. >>
Extremely good point. This is where a lot of "investors" and some collectors
need to exercise a great deal more care. While it might apply more to some
modern conditional rarities than other areas, it should still drive collectors to
seek some fundamental knowledge about what thy are buying. If a coin is
high priced then it should usually not be seen very frequently. Demand has
to be weighed as well but be leery of common wisdom and pop reports. If a
coin has a large premium in high grade then you should look at enough coins
to see that a premium is justified. If the coin of your dreams is available for
far less in a slightly lower grade and the difference is invisible or inconsequen-
tial to you then it's a safe bet that others might feel the same.
Coins are no investment but no one wants to lose on them either. You can
collect almost anything with little or no real risk other than market risk if you
just pay attention and use common sense.
<< <i>(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs. >>
There are many older holders that have been in old time collections since the late 1980's so there are exceptions. Each coin has to be judged on its own merits.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Anything labeled "First Strike" >>
We have a winna! Serious collectors will look back upon this escapade as the Pied Piper era of collecting. Any thing to squeeze a buck out of the hobby no matter how ridiculous it is.
<< <i>
<< <i>(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs. >>
There are many older holders that have been in old time collections since the late 1980's so there are exceptions. Each coin has to be judged on its own merits. >>
The point of the OP is a matter of popularity. I see a dilution of the overall intrinsic value palced on them in the sense that coins in these holders are specifically promoted as such. (I just bouhgt one such coin.) I agree there are plenty stillout there in older collections, like my own. This goes for old ANACS slabs too. I have had some for many years that I feel are generally superior to what is commonly in the same grade at what are now considered the top two TPGs.
NSDR - Life Member
SSDC - Life Member
ANA - Pay As I Go Member
Like I said before. The US is a follower on this designation. Try purchasing a set of these.....
<< <i>(1) Anything that proves to be not truly rare in the absolute or conditional sense but is currently priced as if it is.
(2) Average toners that wow the novice.
(3) First Strikes.
(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs.
(5) SCDs (and not saying that is necessarily good)
Correct.
For once in our lives Cox and I agree on something.
Ericj96
10 years from now all US numismatic items may carry a hefty premium because of the ( Oh No )...AMERO
<< <i>
<< <i>(1) Anything that proves to be not truly rare in the absolute or conditional sense but is currently priced as if it is.
(2) Average toners that wow the novice.
(3) First Strikes.
(4) PCGS rattlers/OGHs and NGC fatties -- increasingly exposed as overgrade tombs.
(5) SCDs (and not saying that is necessarily good)
One I am not sure of is the area of US National Bank Notes. Wouldn't take too much thinning of that specialized market to crash it to where it was not far back, nearly complete disinterested obscurity. More references would refuel interest. >>
I agree,
Ericj96
Extremely good point. This is where a lot of "investors" and some collectors
need to exercise a great deal more care. While it might apply more to some
modern conditional rarities than other areas, it should still drive collectors to
seek some fundamental knowledge about what thy are buying. If a coin is
high priced then it should usually not be seen very frequently. Demand has
to be weighed as well but be leery of common wisdom and pop reports. If a
coin has a large premium in high grade then you should look at enough coins
to see that a premium is justified. If the coin of your dreams is available for
far less in a slightly lower grade and the difference is invisible or inconsequen-
tial to you then it's a safe bet that others might feel the same.
Coins are no investment but no one wants to lose on them either. You can
collect almost anything with little or no real risk other than market risk if you
just pay attention and use common sense. >>
Well, just Love coins, period.