Ike Variety. I need some help and some opinions
Morganmanic
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I have posted this Ike a week or so ago. I was just going through my latest cherrypickers guide and this Ike variety is listed as
FS-S1-1971S-106. The pricing in this book is very high for this coin. Now here are my questions.
1.) Would ANACS make such an error that this is not a DDO? I however believe it is.
2.) If indeed this is a DDO is this a Proof 68 Dcam or is it overgraded?
3.) If indeed this is a DDO and this is Not overgraded then how did I get a Cherrypickers priced Ike variety listed at 450+ when I paid less than 35 dollars?
4.) So does this mean that the cherrypickers guide prices are way off base?
Please anyone I need so direction.
FS-S1-1971S-106. The pricing in this book is very high for this coin. Now here are my questions.
1.) Would ANACS make such an error that this is not a DDO? I however believe it is.
2.) If indeed this is a DDO is this a Proof 68 Dcam or is it overgraded?
3.) If indeed this is a DDO and this is Not overgraded then how did I get a Cherrypickers priced Ike variety listed at 450+ when I paid less than 35 dollars?
4.) So does this mean that the cherrypickers guide prices are way off base?
Please anyone I need so direction.
RACC
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
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As far as the variety. I'll give it a bump till 19Lyds comes along and finds it.
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
As for your coin being an FS-S1-1971S-106? You'll have to provide more detailed and clearer pictures for one of the IKE guru's to chime in. The Cherry pickers guide only gives an overview. It does not give specific die markers to accurately define the 106.
If you can, pick up a copy of the Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars by John Wexler, Kevin Flynn and Billy Crawford. This book pinpoints some specific things to look for in each of the different varieties.
I'd look it up for as I have a copy but it has not been unpacked just yet!
Edited to add:
I asked James Wiles about specific attributions from ANACS and he responded with:
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Lee:
This is a thorny issue. First, call ANACS and tell them you would use a variety program where you send your coins to CONECA (me), they (I) attribute them and send them to ANACS for grading and slabbing. We are working on a such a program, but ANACS needs to know that its customers will use it. CONECA already has such a program in place with ICG.
In the mean time.
1. If you know the attribution and its published (ie. photos are available for ANACS' use) somewhere, then send your coins to ANACS with the published reference under their verification program ($5.00 per coin). If they can match your coin to the published reference, then they will slab it with the attribution on the label.
2. If you don't know the attribution, but you think it is published somewhere, then you can send it to ANACS under their research program ($10.00 per coin). If they can match your coin to a published reference, then they will slab it with the attribution on the label.
3. In either case, if they cannot verify the attribution for whatever reason, they will put a generic label on the slab if warranted (the coin actually is a variety and not a false form of doubling, etc.).
4. You can send me an ANACS slabbed generic label and I will attribute it against the CONECA files. I will issue you a letter with the serial number. You can then return the coin and a copy of my letter to ANACS and have them reholder it with the correct attribution. You will probably have to pay a reholdering fee and maybe even another verification fee. But you may also be able to talk them out of one or both fees.
5. If the attribution is not a published one and this is the case for the vast majority of varieties, then you are forced into the generic label/reholder situation.
6. I think it is a good idea to have varieties slabbed with the attribution on the holder. The problem is you can't trust the TPGs to get it right. Even PCGS and NGC are known to have inaccurate or inadequate attributions on their holders. Thus a partnership with CONECA, (where CONECA makes the attribution and the CONECA name is on the holder) which pretty much guarantees that the attribution is as good as it gets makes sense. I do make mistakes, but a lot fewer than the TPGs. And I cover the whole range of 20th century die varieties (published or not), not just a few.
Thanks,
James Wiles
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So there, now you know what I know! Or thought I knew!
The name is LEE!