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1995 Lincoln DDO?? This one is wierd......

bottleguybottleguy Posts: 354
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What in blue blazes happened here???

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There's also an extra date under the shoulder...

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Any and all opinions welcome...

Rick

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm stumped!
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  • Tyler1924STyler1924S Posts: 1,328
    Great find! Especially, the extra date.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool find, a die gouge, an rpm, I think, and I don't know what the stray digits are.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My first thought is that it was squeezed with a pair of soft false dies.
    Please run full obverse and reverse at a more reasonable size.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Double struck???
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Capt. Hemway -

    Based on the "05" to the left of the bust area, it's
    a false-die piece for that "second strike".

    I first thought "copper movement" when I saw
    the two Mintmarks, but Tom got it, imo.....

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • AskRaqAskRaq Posts: 2,303


    << <i>...it's a false-die piece for that "second strike"... >>



    Can you explain what that means (never heard the term)?
  • errormavenerrormaven Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree with Capt. Hemway -

    Based on the "05" to the left of the bust area, it's
    a false-die piece for that "second strike".

    I first thought "copper movement" when I saw
    the two Mintmarks, but Tom got it, imo..... >>



    I agree as well. The soft, blended overlap between primary and secondary design elements is a telltale clue.
    Mike Diamond is an error coin writer and researcher. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those held by any organization I am a member of.
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A fake/counterfiet die was made, using a real coin,
    and then it was pressed into the host or genuine
    coin, giving the effect you see.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>...it's a false-die piece for that "second strike"... >>



    Can you explain what that means (never heard the term)? >>



    Simplest way to do it is to take a piece of sheet aluminum or brass, fold it over, place a coin between the two sides and squeeze it in a bench vise. This will leave negative impressions of the coin designs in the two sides of the sheet, that resemble dies. These are called false dies.

    More the coin relative to the impressions and squeeze again. Some of the coin will emboss upwards into the negative impressions, giving a false second strike. It is usually random and incomplete.

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    nice find and awsome pics image
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  • bottleguybottleguy Posts: 354
    OK, I'll fess up...........

    Those who called it a "garage job" are right. I had a few beers last night and started messing around. I was surprised at what came out, and still have no idea where the 05 under the shoulder came from..... I was going for just the double mintmark.....

    (BTW, the coin has been destroyed..... although I was thinkin' about putting in back into circulation, just kidding!!).

    Rick
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    why on earth would you want to do that unless you are really trying to fake something? That's like saying, I was only printing off copies of $100 bills to see if I could get them to look real, but I threw them away.. Or, I smoked but didn't inhale. image You wouldn't happen to deal in trade dollars would you? Uh speaky engrish
  • bottleguybottleguy Posts: 354


    << <i>you are really trying to fake something >>



    Actually, I was faking trying to make a real something............. image

    Beer and boredom can be a funny thing...... I had some fun, it was a challenge, I wanted to see if I could do it......... and all I was left with was a bunch of smashed pennies.

    Here's another one I ended up with last night.....

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    Bottom line is, all it cost me was about $0.58 for a couple hours of fun!! Can't get that anywhere else!!

    Rick
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You could sell them on eBay raw! You should submit one to PCGS and see if they grade it.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    i've been scammed image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Hope this doesn't become a regular occurrence here.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭
    brings the name "coin doctor" to a whole new level image
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