My first sub in a long time popped or did it poop?

jay0791

CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 08248589 1998 SP AUTHENTIC 23 CHARLES WOODSON DIE-CUT 8
2 08248590 1998 STADIUM CLUB 190 CHARLES WOODSON 1ST DAY ISSUE 8
3 08248591 1999 SP AUTHENTIC 111 CHAMP BAILEY N/A 8
4 08248592 1975 TOPPS 65 DREW PEARSON N/A 8
5 08248593 1998 TOPPS CHROME 35 RANDY MOSS N/A 9
6 08248594 1997 ZENITH Z-TEAM ZT2 DAN MARINO PROMO 10
7 08248595 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL 8
8 08248596 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL 8
9 08248597 1984 TOPPS 120 MARK DUPER N/A 9
10 08248598 1969 TOPPS 36 DAN ABRAMOWICZ N/A 5
11 08248599 1972 TOPPS 156 DAN PASTORINI N/A 8
12 08248600 1966 PHILADELPHIA 63 MEL RENFRO N/A 7
13 08248601 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL 8
14 08248602 1995 SP 130 TERRELL DAVIS N/A 8
15 08248603 1999 TOPPS CHROME 160 CHAMP BAILEY REFRACTOR 9
16 08248604 1965 PHILADELPHIA 189 PAUL KRAUSE N/A 7
17 08248605 1965 PHILADELPHIA 77 HENRY JORDAN N/A 8
18 08248606 1965 PHILADELPHIA 156 JIM BAKKEN N/A 7
19 08248607 1965 PHILADELPHIA 17 DOUG ATKINS N/A 8
20 08248608 1996 SP 7 TERRELL OWENS N/A 9
21 08248609 1996 SP 7 TERRELL OWENS N/A 9
22 08248610 1996 SP 4 JONATHAN OGDEN N/A 6
23 08248611 1996 SP 91 ZACH THOMAS N/A 8
24 08248612 1964 PHILADELPHIA 61 DICK LANE N/A 8
25 08248613 1966 PHILADELPHIA 102 MERLIN OLSEN N/A 9
26 08248614 1971 TOPPS GAME CARDS 43 TERRY BRADSHAW N/A 5
27 08248615 1970 KELLOGG'S 46 BUBBA SMITH N/A 6
28 08248616 1970 KELLOGG'S 17 BOB GRIESE N/A 8
29 08248617 1963 TOPPS 89 FORREST GREGG N/A 8
30 08248618 1971 TOPPS GAME CARDS 1 DICK BUTKUS N/A 8
31 08248619 1973 TOPPS 300 DICK BUTKUS N/A 7
32 08248620 1969 TOPPS 232 GEORGE BLANDA N/A 7
33 08248621 1967 TOPPS 123 LANCE ALWORTH N/A 8
34 08248622 1966 TOPPS 119 LANCE ALWORTH N/A 7
35 08248623 1961 FLEER 197 JIM OTTO N/A 6
36 08248624 1970 KELLOGG'S 55 JOHNNY UNITAS N/A 8
37 08248625 1996 SP 1 KEYSHAWN JOHNSON N/A 7
38 08248626 1996 SP 1 KEYSHAWN JOHNSON N/A 9
39 08248627 1996 SP 4 JONATHAN OGDEN N/A 8
40 08248628 1996 SP 1 KEYSHAWN JOHNSON N/A 9
41 08248629 1993 SP 6 JEROME BETTIS FOIL 8
42 08248630 1977 TOPPS 380 DAVE CASPER ALL-PRO 8
43 08248631 1967 PHILADELPHIA 74 HERB ADDERLY N/A 8
44 08248632 1961 TOPPS 15 DOUG ATKINS N/A 8
45 08248633 1970 TOPPS 156 CLAUDE HUMPHREY N/A 8
46 08248634 1977 TOPPS 100 O.J. SIMPSON ALL-PRO 8
47 08248635 1960 TOPPS 87 CHUCK BEDNARIK N/A 6
48 08248636 1970 TOPPS 135 PAUL WARFIELD N/A 8
49 08248637 1996 SP 91 ZACH THOMAS N/A 9
50 08248638 1998 SP AUTHENTIC 23 CHARLES WOODSON N/A 8
51 08248639 1964 PHILADELPHIA 110 MICK TINGELHOFF N/A 8
52 08248640 1972 TOPPS 283 WILLIE LANIER ALL-PRO 8
53 08248641 1966 TOPPS 48 GEORGE BLANDA N/A 7
54 08248642 1968 TOPPS 164 LARRY WILSON N/A 9
55 08248643 1964 PHILADELPHIA 75 HENRY JORDAN N/A 8
56 08248644 1977 TOPPS 50 MIKE HAYNES ALL-PRO 8
57 08248645 1984 TOPPS 123 DAN MARINO N/A 9
58 08248646 1975 TOPPS 490 CLIFF HARRIS N/A 8
59 08248647 1977 TOPPS 50 MIKE HAYNES ALL-PRO 8
60 08248648 1965 PHILADELPHIA 79 RAY NITSCHKE N/A 6
61 08248649 1966 PHILADELPHIA 87 RAY NITSCHKE N/A 7
62 08248650 1963 TOPPS 98 FRAN TARKENTON N/A 7
63 08248651 1971 TOPPS GAME CARDS 35 FRAN TARKENTON N/A 5
64 08248652 1967 PHILADELPHIA 46 PAUL WARFIELD N/A 5
65 08248653 1967 PHILADELPHIA 7 TOMMY NOBIS N/A 7
66 08248654 1971 TOPPS 260 O.J. SIMPSON N/A 6
67 08248655 1972 TOPPS 160 O.J. SIMPSON N/A 7
68 08248656 1970 TOPPS 90 O.J. SIMPSON N/A 7
69 08248657 1977 TOPPS 100 O.J. SIMPSON ALL-PRO 8
70 08248658 1998 TOPPS CHROME 35 RANDY MOSS REFRACTOR 9
71 08248659 1966 PHILADELPHIA 41 JIM BROWN N/A 7
72 08248660 1971 KELLOGG'S 41 NICK BUONICONTI N/A 8
73 08248661 1964 PHILADELPHIA 72 WILLIE DAVIS N/A 8
74 08248662 1970 KELLOGG'S 50 FRED BILETNIKOFF N/A 9
75 08248663 1970 KELLOGG'S 50 FRED BILETNIKOFF N/A 9
76 08248664 1969 TOPPS 215 BART STARR N/A 8
77 08248665 1965 PHILADELPHIA 81 BART STARR N/A 7
78 08248666 1984 TOPPS 123 DAN MARINO N/A 9
79 08248667 1971 TOPPS GAME CARDS 50 BART STARR N/A 7
80 08248668 1969 TOPPS 1 LeROY KELLY N/A 8
81 08248669 1992 STADIUM CLUB 683 BRETT FAVRE N/A 8
82 08248670 1991 STADIUM CLUB 94 BRETT FARVE N/A 9
83 08248671 1995 SP 130 TERRELL DAVIS N/A 9
84 08248672 1984 TOPPS USFL 36 JIM KELLY N/A 9OC
85 08248673 1985 TOPPS USFL 75 REGGIE WHITE N/A 9
86 08248674 1977 TOPPS 29 LEROY SELMON N/A 8
87 08248675 1965 PHILADELPHIA 191 BOBBY MITCHELL N/A 8
88 08248676 1963 TOPPS 155 LARRY WILSON N/A 8
89 08248677 1972 TOPPS 285 WILLIE BROWN ALL-PRO 8
90 08248678 1967 PHILADELPHIA 54 LEE ROY JORDAN N/A 7
91 08248679 1967 PHILADELPHIA 106 FRAN TARKENTON N/A 8
92 08248680 1968 TOPPS 61 JIMMY JOHNSON N/A 8
93 08248681 1969 TOPPS 161 BOB GRIESE N/A 8
94 08248682 1996 SP 4 JONATHAN OGDEN N/A 6
95 08248683 1996 SP 18 MARVIN HARRISON N/A 9
96 08248684 1996 SP 18 MARVIN HARRISON N/A 9
97 08248685 1964 PHILADELPHIA 71 HERB ADDERLY N/A 7
98 08248686 1971 TOPPS 245 JOE GREENE N/A 7
99 08248687 1971 TOPPS 250 JOE NAMATH N/A 7
100 08248688 1966 PHILADELPHIA 134 BOB BROWN N/A 5
101 08248689 1995 SP 99 WARREN SAPP N/A 9
102 08248690 1972 TOPPS 65 JIM PLUNKETT N/A 7
103 08248691 1995 SP 147 TONY BOSELLI N/A 9
104 08248692 1995 SP 99 WARREN SAPP N/A 9
105 08248693 1997 FINEST 218 WILLIE McGINEST REFRACTOR W/COATING 10
106 08248694 1975 TOPPS 145 ROGER STAUBACH N/A 8
107 08248695 1973 TOPPS 15 TERRY BRADSHAW N/A 7
108 08248696 1973 TOPPS 89 FRANCO HARRIS N/A 7
109 08248697 1989 SCORE 258 DERRICK THOMAS N/A 9
110 08248698 1975 TOPPS 367 DAN FOUTS N/A 7
111 08248699 1998 BOWMAN CHROME 1 PEYTON MANNING N/A 9
112 08248700 1974 TOPPS 137 JACK HAM N/A 8
113 08248701 1974 TOPPS 220 FRANCO HARRIS N/A 8
114 08248702 1974 TOPPS 219 RAY GUY N/A 8
115 08248703 1974 TOPPS 383 JOHN HANNAH N/A Not Holdered, Did not meet Minimum Size Requirements
116 08248704 2002 TOPPS CHROME 171 DWIGHT FREENEY N/A 8
117 08248705 1966 PHILADELPHIA 54 GEORGE ANDRIE N/A 7
118 08248706 1964 TOPPS 93 ED BUDDE N/A 6
119 08248707 1970 TOPPS 156 CLAUDE HUMPHREY N/A 7
120 08248708 1960 FLEER 66 BILLY CANNON N/A 7
121 08248709 1964 PHILADELPHIA 110 MICK TINGELHOFF N/A 7
122 08248710 1964 PHILADELPHIA 110 MICK TINGELHOFF N/A 7
123 08248711 1969 TOPPS 20 LEN DAWSON N/A 8
124 08248712 1977 TOPPS 146 HARRY CARSON N/A 8
125 08248713 1961 FLEER 197 JIM OTTO N/A 8

Date Received

I need to get them back and then see what I need...but most will be available. The hannah was a broken pcg 9. Some I didn't expect the best of grades....but many I expected better. jay

Gabbs

Jay,

I dont think its that bad at all !!

I think youve got some great stuff there!!

My favorites:

1984 Topps M. Duper rookie PSA 9
1967 Topps L. Alworth PSA 8
1977 Topps D. Casper HOF rookie PSA 8
1970 Topps C. Humprey rookie PSA 8
1964 Phil. M. Tinglehoff rookie PSA 8
1968 Topps L. Wilson PSA 9 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sweet card !!
1967 Phil. T. Nobis rookie PSA 7
1977 Topps H. Carson HOF rookie PSA 8
1961 Fleer J. Otto HOF rookie PSA 8
1974 Topps R. Guy PSA 8
1963 Topps L. Wilson HOF rookie PSA 8
1964 Phil. W. Davis HOF rookie PSA 8
1960 Fleer B. Cannon rookie Heisman winner PSA 7
1969 Topps L. Dawson PSA 8

Those are some NICE cards !!

Gabbs

gregm13

By the looks of your sub, you were massacred on the modern cards....only 2 10's? Nice grades on some of the older rookies but I would venture to guess there are several of the vintage 9's sitting in 8 holders.

Nice cards regardless.

Regards,

Greg M.

jay0791

greg you are absolutely right...there are some 9's in 8 holders. I had thought the jim otto had a 50/50 chance at a 10. it was from a old csa 10 case back when they actually graded cards for real. It will have to go back. The 66 blanda was cracked from a psa 8 case to try for a 9...came back a 7....what !!!!!!!!!! Many were in between grades ..so if they are not 9's they sure are very high end 8's. The modern stuff was all screened by using a LED magnifier.....and all had no white on corners or borders. So what is going on there???? A 6 on a 96 sp ogden please. Just a big waste of money
I made a mistake of sending in a 65 namath that was a sgc 7.5 as a crossover with minimum grade of a 7. I have over 1/2 the 65 set in psa 8 or above and probably 50-100 BK tall boys in 8 or above so I know a 8 when I see one......they must automatically just give ya the lower grade. Should have cracked.
Question: as a marino expert what is the 97 zenith promo marino worth in a 10? Its for sale and I see you have one and might have purchased it. jay

Davemri

Was this the October special? If so, what was your turn around time??

Thanks.

dave

SKINSFAN

OCT I am still waiting on 1 from start of SEP

twiley

Reading this has made me hold off on all the cards I was about to submit next week... Until I read more possitive on grades. I wont submit again.

I see the problem with proper grading on cards is still present from back in the earlier part of this year. Especially on modern cards.

After buying many rack pack cases and pulling maybe(if I am lucky) 6-12 psa 10s per 6 box rack pack case. Price per dollar submitting on my own is not worth it anymore. I can buy the same amount of PSA 10s already slabbed(from the same set I am working on) off ebay for well under the case cost and grading fees. Not to mention when I do submit to PSA I always have hopes the grader(s) of death don't get my submission.

I rather save money then waste it...


besides...


<< <i>OCT I am still waiting on 1 from start of SEP >>



is a long time to wait for a sub...

jay0791

I may not be the one to say I'm an expert on grading but have been around since it all began. For sure there is 2 levels of grading standads...old vs new. Throw the 1-10 list out. Many of the cards I subbed was due to the $5 special. I also sent in about 15 1957 BB and a 65 namath that was express (the outer box to psa was labeled express)....and maybe thats why I got my cards graded so fast. I sent them in oct 31. Still waiting on the "5" days for the bb cards.