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Derrick Thomas cards...big values???

mrbecker712mrbecker712 Posts: 525
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I was browsing through a pricer online (I think maybe Tuff Stuff?) and they had some Derrick Thomas cards at a much higher price than any other card listed in the set. I believe, for example, his 1990 Pro Set was listed at $10, while no other card was listed about $3. Is this a real trend, or just a whacko price guide? I've never put much stock in Tuff Stuff, but from what I've read on these boards, not many put much faith in Beckett either. Just curious if a dead athlete, despite how great he was as a player, is really worth such a dramatic rise in value.
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  • TeknobaileyTeknobailey Posts: 668
    Well, It's too new to look at the pop report and see if it's a low-pop card.

    There's one PSA/DNA and one PSA 9 in the pop report.

    Emmitt is the key card form this set, bringing a lote more than $10.00....

    Most recently, eBay item number 170168469447 didnt sell. Opening bid was a buck. So you can probably find one there cheap.

  • mrbecker712mrbecker712 Posts: 525


    << <i>Well, It's too new to look at the pop report and see if it's a low-pop card.

    There's one PSA/DNA and one PSA 9 in the pop report.

    Emmitt is the key card form this set, bringing a lote more than $10.00....

    Most recently, eBay item number 170168469447 didnt sell. Opening bid was a buck. So you can probably find one there cheap. >>



    OK, since I'm new to all this, what is pop and low-pop? And what is DNA/PSA?
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  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭
    Thomas died young and was very popular. His cards sell vs. most that can't be sold.
  • mrbecker712mrbecker712 Posts: 525


    << <i>Thomas died young and was very popular. His cards sell vs. most that can't be sold. >>



    Does the same apply to Reggie White?
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  • TeknobaileyTeknobailey Posts: 668


    << <i>

    << <i>Well, It's too new to look at the pop report and see if it's a low-pop card.

    There's one PSA/DNA and one PSA 9 in the pop report.

    Emmitt is the key card form this set, bringing a lote more than $10.00....

    Most recently, eBay item number 170168469447 didnt sell. Opening bid was a buck. So you can probably find one there cheap. >>



    OK, since I'm new to all this, what is pop and low-pop? And what is DNA/PSA? >>



    "Low-Pop" means that the population of those cards is low. Meaning if there were 10,000 PSA 10's out there, it wouldnt be a low-pop card.

    "PSA/DNA" means that it's autograpghed and certified authentic by PSA/DNA.

    But, that set is too new to really look at the populations. Even my 1949 Bowmans that I collect, the pop is still rising monthly.

    And yes, it would be the same for any deceased player I presume.

  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭
    Yes on Reggie White. Very similar in hobby terms.
  • mrbecker712mrbecker712 Posts: 525
    Does this "pop" report apply only to PSA 10's, or is there one generated on each grade?
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  • TeknobaileyTeknobailey Posts: 668
    There's a pop for every grade.

    It looks like a spreadsheet of player names with the card number on the left and individual grades on the top and a number in each coinciding box.

    It looks like this:
    image
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    I can always sell a Derrick Thomas Score rookie quickly. His certified autographs have come down a bit since they skyrocketed, I though of picking up a few.
  • mrbecker712mrbecker712 Posts: 525


    << <i>There's a pop for every grade.

    It looks like a spreadsheet of player names with the card number on the left and individual grades on the top and a number in each coinciding box.

    It looks like this:
    image >>



    Okay, I'm starting to understand now. So in other words, the higher the grade and the lower the pop, the higher the value?

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  • TeknobaileyTeknobailey Posts: 668
    Not quite. That can be true, yes, but not always.

    Each grade has it's own pop.

    For instance, see the # 1 card from the screenshot above? For Vernon Bickford? The "pop" in PSA 7 would be 31. And the "total pop" is 139. So you can summarize from this that there are exactly 139 total PSA graded 1949 Bowman Vernon Bickford cards out there.

    Now, same principle, but for $4 Jerry Priddy (the name on front variation) has a PSA 7 pop of 1 and the total pop is 34, thus it's a low-pop card.

    Low pop means there areent that many out there (in any grade).

    You could surmise that it's easier to find a #1 Bickford than it is to find a # 4 Priddy because of each cards population.

    If you look at the Johnny Pesky card from the 49 Bowman set... there's ONE 10 in the world. So yeah, that would bring some serious dollars, well in the thousands. But the card in PSA 7 has a high pop. So the card itself is not a "low pop" card, but PSA 10 is... see what I'm saying?

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