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JohnsCoinsJohnsCoins Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭
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I need some help to identify this coin. Thought it might be Spanish to start but now I am not sure. Not sure if it is a 1735 or 1785 either. It is a little bit larger than a silver dollar. A value would also be appericated.
Thank You
John

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    I believe it will be 1785, as I'm pretty sure it's Louie XVI (1774-1793) I don't have books that far back, but figured I'd hotlink your pics image
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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No idea - France 1 Ecu?

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Found one on CoinArchives (clicky)

    Described as Ludwig XVI., 1774-1793. Ecu aux lauriers 1785

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No idea - France 1 Ecu? >>



    Think you're right - Wikipedia has one on their write-up about him.

    1785 Silver Ecu:
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  • satootokosatootoko Posts: 2,720 ✭
    With Louis XVI on the obverse, identified as "DG FR ET NA RE" (By the Grace of God King of] France and Na???), the date must be 1785, as his earliest coinage is dated 1774. (I can't read the final letters, and don't know enough French history to identify what "NA" stands for.)

    What is the diameter and weight? Without that information it can't be specifically identified, although the somewhat abbreviated legend makes me think it is a relatively small coin such as the silver 24 Sols (1/5 Ecu), KM#569.1, 5.8650g of .9170 fine silver, which is ~25mm in diameter.

    Edited to add: WOW, lots of posts while I was checking Krause and typing! It's not 1 Ecu, as that has the full legend "ET NAV REX". (KM#563 or 564)
    Roy


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  • BailathaclBailathacl Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭

    "NA" in the legend is short for Navarre, a small portion of Spain (just over the Pyrannees, in the Basque area) under Royal French dominion at the time.

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Roy, I believe "NAV" stands for Navarre.

    Edit: Bill beat me to it image

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  • JohnsCoinsJohnsCoins Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭
    Roy
    It is 40 mm in dia and weighs 28.5 g.
    John
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    28 grams is in-line with an Ecu, I believe.

    Roy, Looking at coins on CoinArchives, it appears that this mint (Pau?) is the only one that abbreviated the legend for the Ecu. I haven't found a single one with the full legend for this mint. However, I found two from different mints with full legend:

    Toulouse
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    Bayonne
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  • JohnsCoinsJohnsCoins Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info.
    John
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The cow is indeed the mintmark for Pau.

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