Is this acceptable..for E bay??
Gemineye
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Gemineye
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Gemineye
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<< <i>Who really cares??? And why do you even ask??? It's probably not counterfeit, it's not in a crap slab, it's not from China. The seller probably has no idea of the technical (photo) violation! Leave 'em alone! >>
<< <i>Who really cares??? And why do you even ask??? It's probably not counterfeit, it's not in a crap slab, it's not from China. The seller probably has no idea of the technical (photo) violation! Leave 'em alone! >>
So the rules should not apply to everyone ??
If you are going to have a rule, it should apply to everyone.
Alan
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<< <i>Who really cares??? And why do you even ask??? It's probably not counterfeit, it's not in a crap slab, it's not from China. The seller probably has no idea of the technical (photo) violation! Leave 'em alone! >>
So the rules should not apply to everyone ??
If you are going to have a rule, it should apply to everyone.
Alan >>
You mean there are actually rules that apply to everyone? That is not the way the world works. You will live a much happier life when you accept that !
<< <i>Who really cares??? And why do you even ask??? It's probably not counterfeit, it's not in a crap slab, it's not from China. The seller probably has no idea of the technical (photo) violation! Leave 'em alone! >>
I ask because I look at E-Bay's auctions and they make rules and some adhere them.If others see fit to worm their way around the rules and not posst proper pictures then it just makes it stricter for other folks.
How do you know if the seller is aware or not of the photo rules..??
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<< <i>Who really cares??? And why do you even ask??? It's probably not counterfeit, it's not in a crap slab, it's not from China. The seller probably has no idea of the technical (photo) violation! Leave 'em alone! >>
So the rules should not apply to everyone ??
If you are going to have a rule, it should apply to everyone.
Alan >>
It's the wannabe ebay volunteer police, which sounds like you two are members of, who are giving this "new listing policy" a black eye! It was, initially, meant to stop the fakes, crap slabs, hijackers, Chinese, etc. Now you're nitpicking every mom & pop who buys & sells their coins on ebay; further invigorating our hobby. Makes no sense! I'm a registered powerseller with an ebay store and have yet to hear, from ebay, about the "new rules". Just heard it here and have changed my listings accordingly. Then there are all the moms,pops,aunts,uncles who don't have a clue about the "new rules" who have a stupid, technical, photo violation and then some jacka__ comes along and reports them. WHAT A BUNCH OF JACKA__s!!!
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<< <i>Who really cares??? And why do you even ask??? It's probably not counterfeit, it's not in a crap slab, it's not from China. The seller probably has no idea of the technical (photo) violation! Leave 'em alone! >>
So the rules should not apply to everyone ??
If you are going to have a rule, it should apply to everyone.
Alan >>
It's the wannabe ebay volunteer police, which sounds like you two are members of, who are giving this "new listing policy" a black eye! It was, initially, meant to stop the fakes, crap slabs, hijackers, Chinese, etc. Now you're nitpicking every mom & pop who buys & sells their coins on ebay; further invigorating our hobby. Makes no sense! I'm a registered powerseller with an ebay store and have yet to hear, from ebay, about the "new rules". Just heard it here and have changed my listings accordingly. Then there are all the moms,pops,aunts,uncles who don't have a clue about the "new rules" who have a stupid, technical, photo violation and then some jacka__ comes along and reports them. WHAT A BUNCH OF JACKA__s!!!
People are angry because many people's auction that have absolutely nothing wrong with them are being zapped, while auctions that actually violate the rules are not.
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<< <i>Who really cares??? And why do you even ask??? It's probably not counterfeit, it's not in a crap slab, it's not from China. The seller probably has no idea of the technical (photo) violation! Leave 'em alone! >>
So the rules should not apply to everyone ?? If you are going to have a rule, it should apply to everyone. Alan >>
this is rule-based thinking.
It's the wannabe ebay volunteer police, which sounds like you two are members of, who are giving this "new listing policy" a black eye! It was, initially, meant to stop the fakes, crap slabs, hijackers, Chinese, etc. Now you're nitpicking every mom & pop who buys & sells their coins on ebay; further invigorating our hobby. Makes no sense! I'm a registered powerseller with an ebay store and have yet to hear, from ebay, about the "new rules". Just heard it here and have changed my listings accordingly. Then there are all the moms,pops,aunts,uncles who don't have a clue about the "new rules" who have a stupid, technical, photo violation and then some jacka__ comes along and reports them. WHAT A BUNCH OF JACKA__s!!!
This is principle-based thinking.
Both are actually correct. We all agree that what we really want to achieve is implementation of the principle that scammers, and only scammers, should be punished. Unfortunately, the only way to implement principles is with rules. Ebay is a rule driven playground. They have drones implementing rules and there will allways be those reporting the honest sellers who don't fully comply wiht the rules. It is a shame because my previous auctions were much clearer to the buyer as to what was for sale and what he would get than my current auctions. For example, when selling a 4 coin set of pres dollars I used to put 5 photos, one of the obverse (identical on all 4 coins) and 4 different reverses. Now I have to list 9 photos, two complete sets of obv and rev plus a photo of the total number of coins in the auction--40 coins for 10 4-piece sets. I haven't found a way to make this not be confusing. Keep it simple is the best way and that is currently impossible.
--jerry
Is the listing in violation of eBay's policy? Sure, but so what? I'd think you could probably pull up an eBay auction at random and have a 50/50 chance of finding some sort of listing violation. Why not save your concern for those who are trying to cheat people, and leave sellers who make honest, inadvertent mistakes alone?
<< <i>Well, let's see... From the looks of the seller's feedback, there should be no doubt that the winning bidder will get the item when they pay. The coin is already bid up to a staggering 99 cents- with shipping, it would cost the lucky bidder $3.99 for this PCGS certified coin. The seller has filled out the "Item Specifics" section, including the certification number, which would lead one to believe the seller is making a good faith effort to list the item correctly. What are the odds the seller is trying to cheat somebody by leaving out a picture of the back of the slab? Somewhere around zero, I'd think.
Is the listing in violation of eBay's policy? Sure, but so what? I'd think you could probably pull up an eBay auction at random and have a 50/50 chance of finding some sort of listing violation. Why not save your concern for those who are trying to cheat people, and leave sellers who make honest, inadvertent mistakes alone? >>
Bravo!!!
<< <i>Where is this violation and what are these rules? I thought if you sold one of the big-4 you were okay to list grade. What's the deal? >>
Good question. I keep hearing interpretation of the rules and I can't find them clearly spelled out. My biggest problem is selling multi-item auctions of coin sets. So I'm told that I need obv and rev slab photos of two sets and a wide angle overall photo showing the correct number of coins, e.g, 10 sets x 4 coins/set = 40 coins. I've been told this verbally several times by eBay Trust and Safety (yes, the fact that I've talked to them this much is not a good thing). Here is the link to the policy that I find on the ebay community discussion boards and I can't find this in writing in the rules.
link to rules
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<< <i>Well, let's see... From the looks of the seller's feedback, there should be no doubt that the winning bidder will get the item when they pay. The coin is already bid up to a staggering 99 cents- with shipping, it would cost the lucky bidder $3.99 for this PCGS certified coin. The seller has filled out the "Item Specifics" section, including the certification number, which would lead one to believe the seller is making a good faith effort to list the item correctly. What are the odds the seller is trying to cheat somebody by leaving out a picture of the back of the slab? Somewhere around zero, I'd think. Is the listing in violation of eBay's policy? Sure, but so what? I'd think you could probably pull up an eBay auction at random and have a 50/50 chance of finding some sort of listing violation. Why not save your concern for those who are trying to cheat people, and leave sellers who make honest, inadvertent mistakes alone? >>
Bravo!!!
although I agree with you that his is no harm no foul, the chances of this auction not getting reported and taken down are two, slim and none. Sellers have to just accept the new rules, follow them, or be frustrated. --jerry
<< <i>I did not say any rules were broken when I started this post.The seller lists a PCGS # in his sale also.....There are no clear photos.Maybe the coin IS what it IS ....But but let me be the judge....There maybe a severe scratch on the slab that I may pass on the sale and look for another coin of equal grade in a clearer holder... >>
Then pass on it!!! I'm certainly not going to bid on it either! Just leave it alone! As already said: someone will probably get a good deal! I really don't understand the issue!?
<< <i>I did not say any rules were broken when I started this post.The seller lists a PCGS # in his sale also.....There are no clear photos.Maybe the coin IS what it IS ....But but let me be the judge....There maybe a severe scratch on the slab that I may pass on the sale and look for another coin of equal grade in a clearer holder... >>
Ebay doesn't want to let you be the judge. they want rules that would protect your kid or mother buying on ebay for you a christmas present. --jerry
<< <i>So the rules should not apply to everyone ??
If you are going to have a rule, it should apply to everyone. >>
Yes, rules should apply to everyone. However, eBay uses an enforcement policy based on reports of violations. I find it petty that anybody would report what is obviously a legitimate auction simply because there is a minor violation to be found. The reporting system should not be clogged up with crap, but rather utilized to shut down the deliberate violators hawking crap slabs and counterfeits.
Russ, NCNE
Senior Numismatist
Legend Rare Coin Auctions
<< <i>Has eBay made up new rules for other areas like jewelry or cars or other high end items? >>
Some areas are FAR more restrictive. Try listing Gucci handbags, for example. Even if selling authentic items, once you hit a specific number, (and nobody really knows what that number is), eBay starts nuking the auctions.
Russ, NCNE