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Dealer robbed at Indiana State Coin Show

Found this on rcc, perhaps someone can fix the web sites to come up properly:

We have suffered a robbery while at a show. The police have a few suspects
and I wanted the coin and ebay community to be on the lookout for the
following.


The coins stolen were all commems and the stand out coin that was stolen was
a 1915-S Panama Pacific Half Dollar in PCGS MS-67 worth about $8,750. It's
certification number was 50107542 and was in a fresh holder. Photo is HERE
http://store.aacoinco.com/Detail.bok?no=2240 A reward of $1,000.00 is
being offered for information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the
person responsible! The coins were stolen from the Indianapolis State Coin
Show on November 3rd 2007. Please contact me or the Indianapolis
Metropolitan Police Department @ 317-327-3811 and reference case number
I073061469.


Please see my website for big pictures! www.aacoinco.com


Sincerely,


Bob Bruce
All American Coin & Jewelry Company
6024 North 9th Ave., Suite #5
Pensacola, FL 32504
850-476-5559


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Comments

  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Already posted.Text
  • If I was a dealer I would be wearing my 40 cal. Beretta on my side. This is happening far too often.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I was a dealer I would be wearing my 40 cal. Beretta on my side. >>

    It takes more than carrying a weapon....you better be well trained in pulling it, aiming it and shooting it with precision. Pulling and firing a weapon in a crowded bourse is risky business.
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    people who steal at a show have it down to a science..... even with a show promotor have great security it can still happen..... truly a shame..... best we can do is keep our eyes open and prosecute anyone caught...

    however one must be sure that a coin is really stolen at a show....sometimes a dealer makes an error and thinks a coin is missing, when he may have lost track of it or left it at his shop.... I have seen that happen...
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • image ... Michigan ... you are always reporting to us about coin-related mysteries, robberies, violence and general mayhem...


    ...are you in Law Enforcement???

    ...just curious...


    image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image


  • << <i>image ... Michigan ... you are always reporting to us about coin-related mysteries, robberies, violence and general mayhem...


    ...are you in Law Enforcement???

    ...just curious...


    image >>



    Not much to do in Michigan huh? image
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    you better be well trained in pulling it, aiming it and shooting it with precision.

    I think I could handle it. More importantly, I would hope it would be seen as a deterrent.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    so which is it? a Robbery? or a theft?

    There's quite a difference and honestly if it's not a Robbery, the title of this thread should be changed to reflect what it actually is.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image ... Michigan ... you are always reporting to us about coin-related mysteries, robberies, violence and general mayhem...


    ...are you in Law Enforcement???

    ...just curious...


    image >>




    I have this picture in my mind of Mr. Michigan......it looks something like this....
    image
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>so which is it? a Robbery? or a theft?

    There's quite a difference and honestly if it's not a Robbery, the title of this thread should be changed to reflect what it actually is. >>



    The other thread calls it a robbery also, but there is no indication that is what happened. What's the definition difference?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,514 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>so which is it? a Robbery? or a theft?

    There's quite a difference and honestly if it's not a Robbery, the title of this thread should be changed to reflect what it actually is. >>



    The other thread calls it a robbery also, but there is no indication that is what happened. What's the definition difference? >>



    A theft (robbery) occurs by the hands of a robber (Thief) in the course of his crime (burglary). Someone got burglarized, robbed, thieved (is thieved a word ?) well someone got stole from by someone who stole. The one certainty is there is a villain and a victim.
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>so which is it? a Robbery? or a theft?

    There's quite a difference and honestly if it's not a Robbery, the title of this thread should be changed to reflect what it actually is. >>



    The other thread calls it a robbery also, but there is no indication that is what happened. What's the definition difference? >>



    A theft (robbery) occurs by the hands of a robber (Thief) in the course of his crime (burglary). Someone got burglarized, robbed, thieved (is thieved a word ?) well someone got stole from by someone who stole. The one certainty is there is a villain and a victim. >>



    Then a description of the villain would be helpful. Did he use a weapon?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>image ... Michigan ... you are always reporting to us about coin-related mysteries, robberies, violence and general mayhem...


    ...are you in Law Enforcement???

    ...just curious...


    image[ >>




    image
  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    Theft is an umbrella term for crimes including robbery. This theft is not a robbery, as that term refers to taking of property through force or intimidation.

    This theft would probably be better characterized as larceny. It's an awful loss, for sure, but it doesn't incur the same trauma to the victim as a robbery would. Perhaps an IN lawyer can weigh in on the difference in penalties between robbery and larceny (or burglary, shoplifting, embezzlement, etc).



    Edit: state crime occurred
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    I am an Indiana criminal defense attny. In Indiana Robery is knowingly or intentionally taking the property of another person or from the presence of another person by suing force or threatening force on another person or by putting any person in fear.
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Yes, I agree. The distinction was lost on Joe tho.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    The distinction was lost on Joe tho.

    What the hell does that mean?
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,514 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The distinction was lost on Joe tho.

    What the hell does that mean? >>



    LOL
    I can say Pharmer is smarter than you think.
    What he meant was that someone was more intent on correcting me than answering the question posed image. But to me it's all okay, as the thread gets boosted.... in hopes that the perpetrator ( I think he's the villain) is caught, and justice is served image
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,514 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are TWO "Joes" in this thread image >>



    imageooops, I have to quit assuming.

    I consider the other one, JOSEPH.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are TWO "Joes" in this thread image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Page 2

    Bochi, I dunno what's going on.


    Signed,

    Joe the dweeb
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Robery can be a Class C, B, or A Felony in Indiana.

    Robery is a C Felony up to 8 years in prison.

    Robery while armed with deadly weapon or Robery resulting in bodily injury is a B Felony up to 20 years in prison.

    Robery resulting in serious bodily injury is an A Felony up to 50 years in prison.

    Theft (up to $100,000) is a class D Felony up to 3 years in jail.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well if it were death by hanging we wouldn't have the problems we have in our society. Petty crime wouldn't be petty, now would it ?


  • << <i>image ... Michigan ... you are always reporting to us about coin-related mysteries, robberies, violence and general mayhem...


    ...are you in Law Enforcement???

    ...just curious...


    image >>




    No, but I am a fan of TV shows like "Cops", "World's scariest police chases" etc. image


  • << <i>well if it were death by hanging we wouldn't have the problems we have in our society. Petty crime wouldn't be petty, now would it ? >>




    I once did a term paper on capital punishment and discovered that in England pickpocketing was once punished by public hanging,
    a number of times when the crowd was gathering for the hanging pickpockets could be observed working the crowd.
    I always thought that was rather ironic.
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>The distinction was lost on Joe tho.

    What the hell does that mean? >>



    imageI was responding to planetsteve. Then you had to post in between us. And your name is Joseph. Can't make stuff like that up. 2sides Joe, not you. You I agree with. Trying to make the point to Joe that nothing has been said that makes it a robbery. Why is that assumption being made? The other thread says the same thing. How is it robbery? Joe still hasn't answered that. He either can't or won't make the distinction. Not you Joe. The other Joe.image
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Sorry about the confusion.

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