does this include bccg with it?,the ones that put their supposely slabbed graded cards in the tristar junk slab boxes for 10.00 a slab -they are so great lol-
I read the original post just minutes after it was posted and thought, "big deal." Came back just now to read the replies and realized this is the big news that is going to change the hobby forever. I've checked my pulse, nothings happening.
<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
It is a big pair, especially for non-membership based auto authentication. It will most likely steal a good market share's worth of auto authentication from PSA. Whatever.
The fact of the matter remains, the market is based upon card grading, not auto authentication, and grading shiny modern for investment purposes is like investing in tech stocks in the '90s. A quick thrill. As soon as people catch on the population report, 100 more BGS 9.5s surface. JSA will have no affect of BGS's inability to accurately measure vintage, PSA and SGC will remain the "go-to-guys" in that department.
<< <i>If that was the big news that would rock the hobby then Im really disappointed. Big deal. >>
if you dont hink this is big news then you really dont know much about the hobby. >>
It's now 11:42 AM and still, nothing has changed. So guess I don't know much either.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Our lager, Which art in barrels, Hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, (I will be drunk), At home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, And forgive us our spillage, As we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, But deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter, and the lager.
<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
BSG has a share of the modern market, but PSA still has 1.5 times the combined Beckett listings of graded cards on Ebay from 2000 to present. There are so few cards that get submitted for autograph certification that this really isn't a big deal. People who were likely to use Beckett before will likely still use them, people who were likely to use PSA will still use them. Maybe SGC is ticked, but I'm guessing they realize the small volume that autos generate and really don't care either.
<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
BSG has a share of the modern market, but PSA still has 1.5 times the combined Beckett listings of graded cards on Ebay from 2000 to present. There are so few cards that get submitted for autograph certification that this really isn't a big deal. People who were likely to use Beckett before will likely still use them, people who were likely to use PSA will still use them. Maybe SGC is ticked, but I'm guessing they realize the small volume that autos generate and really don't care either. >>
Ummm YAWN. Yeah really not a big deal at all. I don't collect shiny new stuff so this impact to me is 0. SGC has a huge niche in pre war cards I don't see how this announcement changes that.
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I'm sure they knew about it before you did, so it's nothing "news" worthy to them.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
It is a big pair, especially for non-membership based auto authentication. It will most likely steal a good market share's worth of auto authentication from PSA. Whatever.
The fact of the matter remains, the market is based upon card grading, not auto authentication, and grading shiny modern for investment purposes is like investing in tech stocks in the '90s. A quick thrill. As soon as people catch on the population report, 100 more BGS 9.5s surface. JSA will have no affect of BGS's inability to accurately measure vintage, PSA and SGC will remain the "go-to-guys" in that department. >>
Agreed, PSA and SGC will remain the vintage grading company of choice....what happens after all desired vintage are all graded?
Sure there may be a lot out there still, the questions are how much and how long ...
Just curious, a couple questions... 1. Where do you get your statistics from? 2. Is that 50% overall or 50% of modern cards...i would guess their market share of current stuff to be less than 10%
Just curious, a couple questions... 1. Where do you get your statistics from? 2. Is that 50% overall or 50% of modern cards...i would guess their market share of current stuff to be less than 10% >>
50 % of the market on all cards graded. collectors universe is a publicaly held company you can do all kinds of research on them.
Dude I think you blinded me for about 1 minute there. To the guy who said PSA has 10% of modern where do you get your facts from, do a Ebay search of modern cards and see how many BGS and PSA auctions are running to get some idea. As long as BGS keeps grading laser trimmed cards as 9.5s and 10s I don't see any reason to think of them any differently than PRO.
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<< <i>50 % of the market on all cards graded. collectors universe is a publicaly held company you can do all kinds of research on them. >>
Since you are making the claim, the onus is on you to provide the documentation.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
i got a onus barry,wait a minute, wrong spelling haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i got bigger news than yours,but im not telling anybody either till the voices in my head tell me im allowed too-yes i am crazy,just ask anybody -go back to the beckett board skeezix
so this was the big news which you absolutely had to keep to yourself but couldnt refrain from posting on here to tell people that you knew something that we didnt? wow-- so what grade are you in again???
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<< <i>I wanna dip my balls in it! >>
It might burn a little!!
<< <i>If that was the big news that would rock the hobby then Im really disappointed. Big deal. >>
if you dont hink this is big news then you really dont know much about the hobby.
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<< <i>If that was the big news that would rock the hobby then Im really disappointed. Big deal. >>
if you dont hink this is big news then you really dont know much about the hobby. >>
Sorry squirt, been in the hobby for 30 years. Yes, it may be news but it doesnt rock the hobby world. Again, big deal.
<< <i>I wanna dip my balls in it! >>
Is that a modified 'Beerfest' line??
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
<< <i>I wanna dip my balls in it! >>
I wish it was winter so we could make it into ice blocks and skate on it and then melt it in the springtime and drink it!
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if you dont hink this is big news then you really dont know much about the hobby. >>
Not true at all. Sorry.
<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
It is a big pair, especially for non-membership based auto authentication. It will most likely steal a good market share's worth of auto authentication from PSA. Whatever.
The fact of the matter remains, the market is based upon card grading, not auto authentication, and grading shiny modern for investment purposes is like investing in tech stocks in the '90s. A quick thrill. As soon as people catch on the population report, 100 more BGS 9.5s surface. JSA will have no affect of BGS's inability to accurately measure vintage, PSA and SGC will remain the "go-to-guys" in that department.
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<< <i>If that was the big news that would rock the hobby then Im really disappointed. Big deal. >>
if you dont hink this is big news then you really dont know much about the hobby. >>
It's now 11:42 AM and still, nothing has changed. So guess I don't know much either.
Watch Me
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
<< <i>That news is not as big as this
Watch Me >>
Our lager,
Which art in barrels,
Hallowed be thy drink.
Thy will be drunk, (I will be drunk),
At home as it is in the tavern.
Give us this day our foamy head,
And forgive us our spillage,
As we forgive those who spill against
us.
And lead us not to incarceration,
But deliver us from hangovers.
For thine is the beer, the bitter, and
the lager.
Barmen
<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
BSG has a share of the modern market, but PSA still has 1.5 times the combined Beckett listings of graded cards on Ebay from 2000 to present. There are so few cards that get submitted for autograph certification that this really isn't a big deal. People who were likely to use Beckett before will likely still use them, people who were likely to use PSA will still use them. Maybe SGC is ticked, but I'm guessing they realize the small volume that autos generate and really don't care either.
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<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
BSG has a share of the modern market, but PSA still has 1.5 times the combined Beckett listings of graded cards on Ebay from 2000 to present. There are so few cards that get submitted for autograph certification that this really isn't a big deal. People who were likely to use Beckett before will likely still use them, people who were likely to use PSA will still use them. Maybe SGC is ticked, but I'm guessing they realize the small volume that autos generate and really don't care either. >>
Amen.
If you think this is big news then I guess you thought it was big news when CDSNUTS announced he was now a power seller on ebay..
were they dipped in chocolate?
cast in bronze?
<< <i>ask psa if its big news??? >>
You need to change your sig line...you no longer use JSA/SGC...you use JSA/BGS!
<< <i>ask psa if its big news??? >>
I'm sure they knew about it before you did, so it's nothing "news" worthy to them.
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<< <i>Seeing that Beckett has the market share for newer card grading over psa, and now they have a legitimate authentication...potentially a big pair... >>
It is a big pair, especially for non-membership based auto authentication. It will most likely steal a good market share's worth of auto authentication from PSA. Whatever.
The fact of the matter remains, the market is based upon card grading, not auto authentication, and grading shiny modern for investment purposes is like investing in tech stocks in the '90s. A quick thrill. As soon as people catch on the population report, 100 more BGS 9.5s surface. JSA will have no affect of BGS's inability to accurately measure vintage, PSA and SGC will remain the "go-to-guys" in that department. >>
Agreed, PSA and SGC will remain the vintage grading company of choice....what happens after all desired vintage are all graded?
Sure there may be a lot out there still, the questions are how much and how long ...
<< <i>PSA seems to have about two thirds of the modern market so I'm guessing they will hang around. >>
2/3 of the modern market of what? not grading, that is for sure.
<< <i>psa has 50 % of the market in grading. >>
MINT has 10%....what's your point?
<< <i>ask psa if this is big news? >>
Since JS was with PSA before - I'm not expectin' much there in the way of comment.
I'm not experienced enough in the hobby or have the business intuition to absorb your news.
Could ya elaborate "why" you feel this is really big news for the hobby?
Thanx
mike
<< <i>psa has 50 % of the market in grading. >>
Just curious, a couple questions...
1. Where do you get your statistics from?
2. Is that 50% overall or 50% of modern cards...i would guess their market share of current stuff to be less than 10%
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<< <i>psa has 50 % of the market in grading. >>
Just curious, a couple questions...
1. Where do you get your statistics from?
2. Is that 50% overall or 50% of modern cards...i would guess their market share of current stuff to be less than 10% >>
50 % of the market on all cards graded. collectors universe is a publicaly held company you can do all kinds of research on them.
<< <i>The scene at BGS upon hearing the wonderfull news......... >>
So BGS employees are enjoying one another, spread eagle, as seen in the pool, just left of middle. haha.
<< <i>50 % of the market on all cards graded. collectors universe is a publicaly held company you can do all kinds of research on them. >>
Since you are making the claim, the onus is on you to provide the documentation.
i got bigger news than yours,but im not telling anybody either till the voices in my head tell me im allowed too-yes i am crazy,just ask anybody -go back to the beckett board skeezix
<< <i>The scene at BGS upon hearing the wonderfull news.........
Matt you are surely going to Beckett hell!!!
Well . . . maybe not in public and maybe not right this second .
And so . . . The Battle Begins .
As far as the hobby is concerned , I think this is big news .