Today's numismatic descriptive word: "Mottled"

Goldbully · October 30, 2007 10:21AM

Do you have a mottled coin??

Here's a Franklin Half that exemplifies today's word: "Mottled"

From the Nov. Stack's auction.....................1956 MS-66 FBL (PCGS).

Mottled magenta, gold, and lilac toning over lustrous surfaces.

Stack's

SpaceMonkey · October 30, 2007 10:26AM

fresh from the hopper

/ed

291fifth · October 30, 2007 10:28AM

Mottled usually means ugly.

08HALA20 · October 30, 2007 10:30AM

Nice.

If it was a 1955 I would be interested.

How about this one.

Joe

AU58WALKERS · October 30, 2007 10:32AM

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

fer sure

Edscoin · October 30, 2007 10:33AM

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

Bear · October 30, 2007 10:40AM

Good heavens. Those mottled coins

are going to give me NIGHTMARES

tonight.

PerryHall · October 30, 2007 10:41AM

mottled = splotchy = ugly

Fairlaneman · October 30, 2007 10:42AM

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

To whom? Not me!

and there are many more "Mottleds" in my registry sets. All of them.

Ken

robec · October 30, 2007 10:45AM

I believe this fits the bill. From Rick Tomaska about 15 years ago. NGC MS66

goose3 · October 30, 2007 10:46AM

mottled? maybe Snottled.

PerryHall · October 30, 2007 10:46AM

<< 

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

To whom? >>

To most collectors. May be a good topic for a poll.

Goldbully · October 30, 2007 10:47AM

robec,

That Frankie is so ugly, it's becomes beautiful.

Thanks for that one....great pic!!!!!

robec · October 30, 2007 10:48AM

You mean you don't think it's cute?

pharmer · October 30, 2007 10:48AM

very mottled

Pistareen · October 30, 2007 10:49AM

I can confirm that when a cataloguer uses the term "mottled," it's only because the word he's really thinking of is not polite to use around company.

Edit: This is not to suggest that I would call all the pieces illustrated here "mottled." I just know a particular cataloguer who uses the word often -- and typically uses it as a code work to describe a coin whose toning is thick and unattractive. And, to my knowledge, he does not use it to describe classic Mint Set toning, which to my eye looks more speckled than mottled.

Ah, semantics.

PerryHall · October 30, 2007 10:52AM

<< I can confirm that when a cataloguer uses the term "mottled," it's only because the word he's really thinking of is not polite to use around company. >>

POS?

TwoSides2aCoin · October 30, 2007 10:52AM

A cataloguer really does have a tough job if you think about it.

PerryHall · October 30, 2007 10:54AM

pharmer---Nice coin. I wouldn't put that in the same category as most mottled coins.

Fairlaneman · October 30, 2007 11:01AM

<< 

<< 

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

To whom? >>

To most collectors. May be a good topic for a poll. >>

Start the poll and lets see. According to this thread most of my collection and past collections have been POS's

Ken

robec · October 30, 2007 11:07AM

Here are a couple more that might be considered mottled. Not quite as bad as the '52 Frankie though.

Fairlaneman · October 30, 2007 11:09AM

OK. The two mercs are ugly. Tone on the cheek does not cut it.

Ken

Goldbully · October 30, 2007 11:14AM

<< 

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

To whom? Not me!

and there are many more "Mottleds" in my registry sets. All of them.

Ken >>

Words cannot describe that Roosie!!!

He either has a serious skin condition, or he mated with a Spotted Pony.

robec · October 30, 2007 11:18AM

<< OK. The two mercs are ugly. Tone on the cheek does not cut it.

Ken
>>

I agree, the toning is ugly. But the good news is that they didn't cost a dime.

jmj3esq · October 30, 2007 11:30AM

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

Not all the time. This actually looks a lot better in hand:

Here is another average mottled mint set toned Frankie:

Fairlaneman · October 30, 2007 11:39AM

<< 

<< OK. The two mercs are ugly. Tone on the cheek does not cut it.

Ken
>>

I agree, the toning is ugly. But the good news is that they didn't cost a dime.

>>

Thats a plus on the cost. Another plus is the tone is completely original.

Ken

Louis · October 30, 2007 11:41AM

Fairlaneman · October 30, 2007 11:41AM

<< 

<< 

<< Mottled usually means ugly. >>

To whom? Not me!

and there are many more "Mottleds" in my registry sets. All of them.

Ken >>

Words cannot describe that Roosie!!!

He either has a serious skin condition, or he mated with a Spotted Pony.

>>

The picture does not do roosevelt justice. He is one colorful dude in hand.

Ken

LeeG · October 30, 2007 11:45AM

Not quite sure if these two fit the bill:

edited to add:

From PCGS "Lingo" page -

mottled toning
Uneven toning, usually characterized by splotchy areas of drab colors.

TwoSides2aCoin · October 30, 2007 11:45AM

FEVER · October 30, 2007 11:46AM

This 1834, O-109 should fit the "mottled" look.

Edgar

BobaFett72 · October 30, 2007 11:46AM

mottled = having a bit of character

Goldbully · October 30, 2007 12:20PM

<< Not quite sure if these two fit the bill:

edited to add:

From PCGS "Lingo" page -

mottled toning
Uneven toning, usually characterized by splotchy areas of drab colors. >>

Nice choices Lee.....they may have some splotchy areas per PCGS Lingo page, but the mottling is pleasing IMHO.

dizzyfoxx · October 30, 2007 12:24PM

dizzyfoxx · October 30, 2007 12:25PM

My definition of Mottled is almost synonymous with "pass" ...but not always.

Goldbully · October 30, 2007 12:47PM

<< Good heavens. Those mottled coins

are going to give me NIGHTMARES

tonight.

>>

Bear,

They are only coins....keep telling yourself!!

"They are only coins!"

Good Night....Sleep Tight!

NHSBaseball · October 30, 2007 1:06PM

I like robec's Franklin- its colors remind me of a gag grouper I caught in Destin last summer.

MidLifeCrisis · October 30, 2007 2:40PM

This coin was described as "a lustrous silvery gray with darker gray somewhat mottled toning". And I absolutely love it!

1787 Fugio Restrike in Silver MS62 [PCGS] Smith-Eliasberg

PerryHall · October 30, 2007 11:49PM

<< This coin was described as "a lustrous silvery gray with darker gray somewhat mottled toning". >>

Doesn't look mottled to me. Nice coin though.

sTONER · October 30, 2007 11:54PM

jmj3esq · October 31, 2007 12:20AM

That Fugio is awesome.

Goldbully · October 31, 2007 1:51AM

<< This coin was described as "a lustrous silvery gray with darker gray somewhat mottled toning". And I absolutely love it!

1787 Fugio Restrike in Silver MS62 [PCGS] Smith-Eliasberg

>>

Gorgeous Fugio.

Fever's 1834 CBH is pretty darn sweet also.

Great pics guys!!!

Hey, the mottled look ain't so bad some of the time!!!

numisma · October 31, 2007 2:09AM

When cataloging, some will use the term "variegated surfaces" in place of "mottled."

PerryHall · October 31, 2007 2:20AM

<< When cataloging, some will use the term "variegated surfaces" in place of "mottled." >>

I prefer "splotchy".

lkrarecoins · October 31, 2007 2:54AM

Mottled magenta, gold, and lilac toning over lustrous surfaces

thats a fancy way of saying "Fugly"

Meltdown · December 3, 2007 5:01PM

I think I have a couple that qualify...

LeeG · December 3, 2007 6:51PM

lordmarcovan · December 3, 2007 7:04PM

This antoninianus of the Roman emperor Aurelian (270-75 AD) is about as mottled as can be.

It's a pity the "mottling" makes the coin so ugly, because it has pretty sharp details. Also, the mottling in this case is caused by traces of the original silvering, which usually didn't survive on these thinly-silvered bronze coins. So it's an ugly coin, but its being partially silvered is a plus, I suppose. Besides, I got it on the cheap.

Goldbully · May 10, 2009 12:57PM

Is this IHC considered 'mottled" toning???

Post your 2009 candidates!!!!!!

busco69 · May 10, 2009 1:08PM

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