1971-S 40% Silver Business strike Peg Leg???

IRCWCoins

Is this 1971-s Ike a peg leg??? It is not quite as polished off as the one in the cherrypickers guide. It has a lot of die polishing on it and doubling on L-I-B in LIBERTY. Would PCGS slab it as a peg leg?

sinin1

I don't think so

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71-S peg leg thread

19Lyds

I think this could be considered a very early die state for a straight pegleg. Other's may disagree but the left portion of the R is definitely straight. There is a slight appearance of a small serif on the right portion of the leg.

None of this really matters though since PCGS does not attribute nor recognize the 1971-S 40% Business Strike PegLeg coin or any pegleg at all!

ModernDollarnut should chime in on this and be able to give a more "reputable" opinion.

Exciting isn't it? BTW, I have two of this same R version!

IRCWCoins

19Lyds: Doesn't PCGS attribute the 1971-S Business strike peg leg since it is listed in the cherrypickers guide?

19Lyds

They said they would attribute any coin submitted with the FS number. However, if I recall correctly, since I do not have my Cherry Pickers Guide handy, there was something funny with the 1971-S 40% Pegleg FS number. I don't think it received a cross reference to the new numbers or something like that. Its number is FS-S1-1971S-401

ModernDollarNut

I bet your Ike is not a "Straight Peg Leg" and it certainly is not a "Faded Peg Leg", the two '71-S BS Peg Leg ODV Peg Legs.

There are imitators of the SPL which are always (so far in my experience) die-clashed with fine, very fine, even polished-looking abrasions all the way around Ike's bust tight in and under the left leg of the R, erasing most of its serifs. We call these "Almost SPL's".

If the dies are still paired, the reverse of an ASPL will typically show cruder die-abrasion and even indications of a "Jaw Line" image or a "Moon Line image".

If none of this is present you may have a whoper of a SPL - but I have been fooled several times at shows thinking I had a winner, only to get home and have reality sink in.

The other feature to look for is clear notching of the right ends of the feet of the two LL's of DOLLAR. The SPL is a one die coin always paired with a nifty DDR of which the LL's are the most prominent feature, even naked eye and easy by loupe.

As to your last question, PCGS has been gradually working up to more modern series in their quest to incorporate not only Design Varieties but significant die states as well. Ikes are on their agenda but I don't expect much to happen for a while unless they add Varieties and die states one at a time (which I do not expect).

My guess is the Stanton-Fivaz numbers won't be attributed, in this case just the one '71-S Ike Peg Leg, until a more inclusive numbering or naming scheme is presented that captures all the known interesting Ikes (we're working on just that).

Hope this helps, hope I'm making sense. Rob

19Lyds

I stand totally corrected on attribution of the 1971-S Business Strike PegLeg Eisenhower!

Through a recent submission I just got one attributed as an MS64:

PCGS No Date Denom Variety Desig
148405 1971-S $1 Silver Peg Leg FS-401 MS

I cannot wait to get it in my grubby little hands!

jimmymac

not to change the subject, but when is PCGS going to attribute the 1971D FEP - it's clearly variety - even a pattern coin as some suggested - just wondering if any of the IKE folks know when this is going to happen??

19Lyds

Personally, I have absolutely no idea. In the above submission I tried getting 5 crossed and attributed.

At one point, I thought they might actually do it until the customer service rep checked with the variety guy. Negatory!
It would have been sweet to have those three MS66's attributed!

I also checked the pops on the above 71-S and there is only 1 MS64. I can't help but wonder if its mine but somehow, "I don thin so Lucy!"
PCGS coin number 148405 will be one to watch!