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Sure fire way to get me never to buy from a seller again

Do one of two things,

Use the package in which you mail me my card to include pamphlets, letters, leaflets, or anything of the like to peddle your religious views.

Use the feedback space intended for leaving my feedback to express your religious views.

I have absolutely nothing against any religion, or anyones beliefs. What I do have a big time problem with is the absolutely improper bahavior of a vast many religious folks who feel that they can push their views on someone else whenever and however they please.

Both instances I described are 100% wrong, inconsiderate and downright disrespectful. This week alone I had each of the two described happened to me. Both sellers are now on my dont ever buy from list. I am very tempted to use the feedback column to express my displeasure in a not so nice manner, and the next one that sends me their unwanted solicitations along with my cards will be receiving a 20lb box full of the most NON religious, distasteful stuff I can possibly find in return.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
-- Yogi Berra

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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I agree with you 100%. Religion is a private matter and should stay that way.
  • These freaks are so dillusional that they fail to see that forcing their beliefs pushes millions of free-thinkers away even furthur. God's gonna kick their brainwashed butts when they show up at his pearly gate. Amen
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    You should send them back a package filled with holy poo image
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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    I completely agree that it is totally inappropriate and a total waste of time on the behalf of those who spam your eBay purchases and feedback with religious information. I've never had that happen. At the same time, retaliating against these people only further ingrains their ideologies into their consciences. If these people "spread peace" and are met with opposition, then, in their minds, there is still a need in the world for "soldiers" such as themselves. I'm a Christian, I'm not ashamed to say it, I'm not scared of retaliation for having said belief, but, for me, "spreading the word" is a lifestyle, not a soapbox. I guess my only questions would be, if someone tells you they are going to pray for you, do you feel as if they're forcing their own religious beliefs upon you? Would you rather them not pray for you? Because the people who send this spam feel as if they're doing you the same kind of service as those who are simply "praying" for you.
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  • TJMACTJMAC Posts: 864 ✭✭
    While I would never do it, it would not stop me from buying from someone. A good deal is a good deal!!!! I would just throw out any papers you don't want. As far as leaving feedback, I see people adverstise their business, which I frankly have more of an issue with. That being said, it is their perogative to write what they want. They just better leave a positive feedback.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    bri...

    can I pm you my address for one of those 20 pound boxes?
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>bri...

    can I pm you my address for one of those 20 pound boxes? >>



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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>While I would never do it, it would not stop me from buying from someone. A good deal is a good deal!!!! I would just throw out any papers you don't want. As far as leaving feedback, I see people adverstise their business, which I frankly have more of an issue with. That being said, it is their perogative to write what they want. They just better leave a positive feedback. >>



    I dont agree with people advertising their business whatsoever, but at least it has something to do with the transaction I was involved in them with.

    As for it being someone perogative to write what they want, I wholeheartedly disagree with you on that. It is not someones right to use the space intended to leave feedback for a sportcards purchase to spew their religious views.
    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
    -- Yogi Berra

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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    assuming (by what you've written) that you have received feedback and have yet to leave feedback, if it was me.....I'd probably neutral the guy and tell him in the neutral something along the lines of "Do Not appreciate the bible thumping materials in shipping OR on my feedback"
  • RogermnjRogermnj Posts: 1,809 ✭✭
    This never happened to me... what kind of pamphlets are they giving you?

  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭
    I have nothing against God, its his fan club I can't stand.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you guys are talking about advertising their bussiness do you meen in the feedback? Say for instance- "A+ buyer, thanks for buying from joe blow sportscards" ? I dont see a problem with that, a positive is a positive! As far as sending you religuos pamphlets in your purchase who cares? If the card comes safe and sound then just discard the religuos material and move on, im not religuos by any stretch but IMO no harm done. My 2 cents!


  • << <i>I'm a Christian, I'm not ashamed to say it, I'm not scared of retaliation for having said belief, but, for me, "spreading the word" is a lifestyle, not a soapbox. >>





    Well said BunchOBull


  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>As far as sending you religuos pamphlets in your purchase who cares? ! >>



    I care.

    It has nothing whatsoever to do with sportcards or anything else I am purchasing and has no business being snuck into my package. They deserve to have their pamphlets used as toilet paper and mailed back to them.

    And as far as feedback, dont leave me any. Hell, leave me a negative. Id rather have a negative than someone pi$$ing his or her religion my direction without me asking for it.

    The sad part is the one who left the feedback has 3 neutrals and 7 negatives this month already. He should spend his time praying for a reason for anyone to continue to buy from him.
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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Bri, next time you win something simply take a page or 2 out of a playboy (like the center couple) and fold your check up inside of them and mail it.

    Mailing of unsolicited bible thumping stuff is completely improper. Bri might be a devil worshipper or a Wicca.


    Would it be ok for him to send his payment along with various pamphlets from either of those?
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>I completely agree that it is totally inappropriate and a total waste of time on the behalf of those who spam your eBay purchases and feedback with religious information. I've never had that happen. At the same time, retaliating against these people only further ingrains their ideologies into their consciences. If these people "spread peace" and are met with opposition, then, in their minds, there is still a need in the world for "soldiers" such as themselves. I'm a Christian, I'm not ashamed to say it, I'm not scared of retaliation for having said belief, but, for me, "spreading the word" is a lifestyle, not a soapbox. I guess my only questions would be, if someone tells you they are going to pray for you, do you feel as if they're forcing their own religious beliefs upon you? Would you rather them not pray for you? Because the people who send this spam feel as if they're doing you the same kind of service as those who are simply "praying" for you. >>



    In most cases for someone to say they are praying for you, you and them are in a position far different than an ebay sportscard purchase. if I came on here and said I had a family member who was ill and you said you will pray for me, great. To compare a situation such as that to sending unsolicited material along with my cards is off base and going down the apples/oranges road.

    It is exactly your comment about people who send this spam feeling as if they are doing the same by sending you unsolited material that is the root of the problem. They are so warped they cant see the difference between one thing and the other, or between right or wrong, appropriate or inappropriate. They are the same ones who are gung ho anti abortion yet will stand outside a clinic and call for the death of the workers inside.

    I do not wish to turn this into a religious or ethical debate. If someone is too blind to see how the two things I mentioned are inappropriate than nothing I or anyone will say here is going to change their minds.
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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    What were the religious comments that were left in your feedback?
  • To make life easier you should buy your cards through VCP because they verify the auction and do not allow cards with qualifiers to be shown in the listings. Plus it is a lot easier to do player and set searches, all the cards with live auctions have a red icon and you click on it to see what is available.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    isn't VCP the place that has the rover or paid links or am I thinking of another place???

  • yes they do but it costs you nothing...the fees come from eBay to them if you buy through the link. For the work and job they do filtering and alerting you of your want list they should be able to make a buck.
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>yes they do but it costs you nothing...the fees come from eBay to them if you buy through the link. For the work and job they do filtering and alerting you of your want list they should be able to make a buck. >>



    Do you even realize that you responded in the wrong thread ? TWICE ? LOL
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  • You are right sorry about that...
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>yes they do but it costs you nothing...the fees come from eBay to them if you buy through the link. For the work and job they do filtering and alerting you of your want list they should be able to make a buck. >>



    Do you even realize that you responded in the wrong thread ? TWICE ? LOL >>



    nah, he spammed the other thread with a little different reply about OC's.

    Frankly, I can search ebay myself. Unless there's more to it, I fail to see what's so great.
  • bobby is spamming everywhere today eh?

    im sure there is NO adverstising whatsoever lol.

    anyhoo, i have twice had folks send religious crap through the mail. it goes into the trash and those folks dont get feedback. Dont peddle your beliefs on me, keep it to yourself.
  • TJMACTJMAC Posts: 864 ✭✭
    Bri,

    Like it or not they are well within their rights to write religious words in their feedback. If they weren't, EBAY would remove it. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean they don't have a right to do it. On the flip side, you have every right to block them, which you did.

    People do a lot of things that we find offensive. However, with all the awful things that are happening in the world, sending someone religious information should rank pretty low on the list. I would rather get a piece of mail that I can discard instead of all of the annoying telemarketing calls I receive. Oh well, to each their own.

  • I'm a Christian and this really bothers me. I apologize on behalf of our other more "fundimentalist" brothers and sisters that did this. Not everyone is like this. In fact, believe it or not, I've been turned away from churchs many times to speak because I found Christianity through philosophy and U2. When I incorporate that into my life story you wouldn't believe how people react.
    Religion is private. I believe something that I feel like I can share if I feel that person wants to hear. But only if they want to hear. I would never force it on someone. Sorry dude.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭
    I feel like you're awfully ANGRY about this and that's probably not healthy for you. Why not let it roll off your back?
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    never had that one happen to me in 9 years, ill never buy off someone again when they charge me 4.00 for a slabbed card and and 1.00 for every one after when you can get em all in a flat rate box if you have to for 8.00,thus they make a wad off the 1.00 each additional card scam,if i buy 20 cards ,thats 23.00 the guy thinks hes gonna get for postage and send for 8.00 lol-,not from me they're not lol
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I feel like you're awfully ANGRY about this and that's probably not healthy for you. Why not let it roll off your back? >>




    perhaps we should all say a prayer for him tonite?image
  • While freedom of religion should of course be allowed, freedom *from* religion should also be enforced.

    I agree, this behavior is absolutely unacceptable, and these people wonder why there's such a backlash against their preachings?
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    As annoying as Ned Flanders might be, he means no harm.

    The types of retaliation mentioned here is pretty much the equivalent of spitting on a guy for holding the door open for you when you've got your arms full of stuff.



    << <i>freedom *from* religion should also be enforced. >>


    No one's "civil rights" have been violated. The Government played no part in the insertion of these religious documents. There's nothing to enforce here.
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  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭


    << <i>nah, he spammed the other thread with a little different reply about OC's. >>



    He might have replied to the wrong thread. But if you are slamming him, make sure you don't solicit the board for free price checks through his paid subscription website. His website provides valuable up to date information.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>nah, he spammed the other thread with a little different reply about OC's. >>



    He might have replied to the wrong thread. But if you are slamming him, make sure you don't solicit the board for free price checks through his paid subscription website. His website provides valuable up to date information. >>




    Slamming? Laughable.

    care to point out 1 occasion where I've asked for a price check?

    There is a specific forum here to spam one's ware's and to do so in someone's thread shows a lack of respect for the OP.
  • JohnnyDJohnnyD Posts: 521 ✭✭
    I have bought 100's of items on ebay and must admit that this has never happened to me. Maybe a simple "God Bless You" in the feedback but never pamphlets or anything overtly religious....did not realize this is a common occurence...
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