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1955 DDO Lincoln Cent -- Real or Fake?

droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
From the same ebay seller bringing us the 1909-S VDB mentioned in another thread today:

1955 DDO listing

Opinions please! (Someting doesn't look quite right about it to me....)
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin does not look real to me. The coin also looks cleaned, in my opinion.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Top image is real.
    Bottom is Ebay coin.
    They sure look close.
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    Larry

  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Top image is real.
    Bottom is Ebay coin.
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    Larry

  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks real to me,but may have been oiled up or whizzed or something.NOT ORIGINAL SURFACES!
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  • Very suspicious
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are many high quality die struck counterfeits out there. Since a real coin was used to make the copy dies you would explect the counterfeit to look just like a real coin. The pics aren't good enough to authenticate this coin. This is the type of coin that you shouldn't buy raw, especially on eBay.

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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are many high quality die struck counterfeits out there. Since a real coin was used to make the copy dies you would explect the counterfeit to look just like a real coin. The pics aren't good enough to authenticate this coin. This is the type of coin that you shouldn't buy raw, especially on eBay. >>


    I agree.
    The reverse pic is too small to see if the die polish line is next to the T in cent.
    Are the die struck counterfeits good enough to have this diagnostic?
    Larry

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it is that great a coin, it would already be in a reputable holder. Why leave $$ on the table?

    I am very suspect of the coin and the carefully worded auction. All they guarantee is authenticity. No stated return policy, no Paypal protection, just a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

    It may be real, but it could well have problems that would prevent it from getting into a PCGS or NGC holder.

    I wouldn't touch this one.

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  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    I am far from expert, but believe it to be a genuine coin with suspect surfaces.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver

  • defineatly looks real to me.


  • that coin has had a bath. and that sellers listings are atrociously overdone
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are many high quality die struck counterfeits out there. Since a real coin was used to make the copy dies you would explect the counterfeit to look just like a real coin. The pics aren't good enough to authenticate this coin. This is the type of coin that you shouldn't buy raw, especially on eBay. >>



    I am with Perry on this one.
    I also do not like the way the skin looks on this one.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Looks real, but dipped in Dellers or something. Anyways as earlier post have stated , "Why leave money on the table". The risk outways the bargain.
  • It looks real to me. I cannot comment on color because of the photos. If it is fake, it is a darn good one. I would never buy something like this on eBay. Especially from someone who is so verbose. I agree it should be in a slab.. Because it is not it makes me think something is wrong with this coin.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are many high quality die struck counterfeits out there. Since a real coin was used to make the copy dies you would explect the counterfeit to look just like a real coin. The pics aren't good enough to authenticate this coin. This is the type of coin that you shouldn't buy raw, especially on eBay. >>



    I agree with Rocco who agrees with Jerry who agrees with Perry. Can't see the diagnostic lines on the reverse off the T crossbar in CENT

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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Well, first off the coin looks real, but it's impossible to tell with the images provided. There aren't any screaming signs of it being fake...and I'm known to be able to spot Lincoln cent fakes.

    Second, the images are odd - why black and white? The lighting is wierd, and the whole thing just tells me there's something to hide.

    It not being in a holder isn't an issue. A lot of people including myself don't care about the holders and don't put that much importance on them.

    BUT....I would never buy from any seller with that much CRAP in the auction. That many font changes; that unprofessional an appearance.

    I would also NEVER buy a coin worth any more than $20 over the internet - every other coin I would buy would be sight seen, especially one that's potentially over $1000.

    I would go so far as to say anyone is a nut for spending that kind of money on a coin that could possibly have cleaning or authentication issues sight unseen over the internet.
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  • lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    I think the coin looks FANTASTIC!!! image
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  • MercfanMercfan Posts: 701 ✭✭


    << <i>I am far from expert, but believe it to be a genuine coin with suspect surfaces. >>



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    The coin looks authentic to me, but the color is a huge red flag--and probably the reason this isn't in reputable plastic.

    JMHO, of course, but I've looked closely at quite a few wheat-reverse Lincolns.

    Everyone else who's already said it here and in numerous other posts is absolutely correct: If you buy a coin like this raw on EBay, you're courting hassles and heartache.

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  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Top image is real.
    Bottom is Ebay coin.
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    what's with the weirdness by the rims at the "L" on this? that's what drew my attention.
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  • From reading his answers I just don't trust the guy. Seems he's hiding something.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Coin looks real although impossible to know for sure form the image, but it appears to have been oiled.


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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    That's going for way too much with all those red flags!
    The price is almost $2500 and not done yet, the buyers could get a nice one in a real TPG slab for less.

    Here's a fake funny 55/55 listing:

    totaly fake





    Ed
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As other have pointed out the color doesn't look right.

    I'm not one for all the red, purple, and blue lettering, plus all the hype.

    A coin like this doesn't need 3 pages of crap to sift through.

    Besides seller is claimig 64-65, isn't a 55DDO, a coin that should be slabbed?

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  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's a fake funny 55/55 listing: >>



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  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There are many high quality die struck counterfeits out there. Since a real coin was used to make the copy dies you would explect the counterfeit to look just like a real coin. The pics aren't good enough to authenticate this coin. This is the type of coin that you shouldn't buy raw, especially on eBay. >>



    You hit the nail on the head.......image
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's real, but really messed with. That's one of those coins I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole (or 10x glass) on eBay unless it was certified...
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