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I'm ready for my lumps :(

lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
If your gonna lose, it may as well be to the best team in football.

I missed the game (had to work). I just walked in and flipped it on to see the last 20 seconds.

48-27 but the Cowboys were winning in the 3rd quarter? Must have been a good game at one point.

Anyway Congrats to the Patriot fans on the board.

At least it wasnt a 31 point blowout like everyone thought.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Matt, the game was well played by both offenses. Definately a GREAT game! You guys are not going away, we might meet up in the Super Bowl you never know!
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    Hey, it's not like the college game where more than one loss and you're done. As long as the 'Boys are not mathematically eliminated you can never give up hope. I mean, we just has a sixth seed win the Super Bowl after all. image
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  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    I thought the final would be 31-17 Pats. It's just too tough to slow the Pats down. They very well could go undefeated.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought the final would be 31-17 Pats. It's just too tough to slow the Pats down. They very well could go undefeated. >>



    That would be cool to see. I hate seeing those old fat guys on the Dolphins sideline celebrating every year.

  • Dallas gave the Pats a hard game. Lots of bruises tonight. But i compare leagues like this

    Afc is to the Nfc as American League is to the National in baseball.

    Should be Pats and Cowboys in the big one.
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  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    I really doubt the Pats are going to be undefeated. As soon as they clinch the division and win enough games to get the home field advantage in the playoffs, they're going to be laying down guys early in the game. For the last few games of the season, I wouldn't be surprised if they yanked Brady out of the game after the first quarter.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Takes the sting out of the Red Sox loss; Romo played well for a while there...fearless. I like Barber too.
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  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    great game regardless, New England looks unstoppable at this point, but it is early
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>great game regardless, New England looks unstoppable at this point, but it is early >>



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  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    Where's the Matt teddy bear??? LOL
  • NE does look tough, but Dallas killed themselves with penalties today....



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    However, I can totally see them dominating this season... >>



    Wow, thanks for that insight Nostradamus!

    You mean them being 6-0 and Brady with the most TD throws through 6 games? Your power of insight is amazing.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All smack aside, the Cowboys played a well fought game, and the game was closer than the score indicated.

    In retrospect, I think Phillips kicking the field goal in the 4th quarter sort of conceded the game which in the long-run was a smart move. It's a long season, the Cowboys players were tired, and the Patriots were firing on all cylinders tonight, just too good, and no sense wasting energy and risking injury on a game you're not gonna win, especially since you're still gonna be 5 - 1. Phillips showed me there that he is a very good football coach and the Cowboys are lucky to have him.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Where's the Matt teddy bear??? LOL >>



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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>All smack aside, the Cowboys played a well fought game, and the game was closer than the score indicated.

    In retrospect, I think Phillips kicking the field goal in the 4th quarter sort of conceded the game which in the long-run was a smart move. It's a long season, the Cowboys players were tired, and the Patriots were firing on all cylinders tonight, just too good, and no sense wasting energy and risking injury on a game you're not gonna win, especially since you're still gonna be 5 - 1. Phillips showed me there that he is a very good football coach and the Cowboys are lucky to have him. >>



    Steve I disagree, I think Philips kicking the FG at that point was a horrible call! As a proffesional NFL coach you play to win and coach to win, show your guys have faith in them and make them confident in themselves! Had they scored a TD there instead of conceding a FG who knows what could have happened-right? Maybe stopping NE on there next possesion in 3 plays and then you got the ball back and try to get in the endzone again. I agree Phillips is doing a great job though and by no means does this game have playoff implications (Right now-anyways) Dallas will be fine, I just dont like a team conceding at any point -they get paid to play to win!
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    << <i>they get paid to play to win! >>



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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>All smack aside, the Cowboys played a well fought game, and the game was closer than the score indicated.

    In retrospect, I think Phillips kicking the field goal in the 4th quarter sort of conceded the game which in the long-run was a smart move. It's a long season, the Cowboys players were tired, and the Patriots were firing on all cylinders tonight, just too good, and no sense wasting energy and risking injury on a game you're not gonna win, especially since you're still gonna be 5 - 1. Phillips showed me there that he is a very good football coach and the Cowboys are lucky to have him. >>



    Steve I disagree, I think Philips kicking the FG at that point was a horrible call! As a proffesional NFL coach you play to win and coach to win, show your guys have faith in them and make them confident in themselves! Had they scored a TD there instead of conceding a FG who knows what could have happened-right? Maybe stopping NE on there next possesion in 3 plays and then you got the ball back and try to get in the endzone again. I agree Phillips is doing a great job though and by no means does this game have playoff implications (Right now-anyways) Dallas will be fine, I just dont like a team conceding at any point -they get paid to play to win! >>



    At the time I also thought it was a bad call, and I didn't understand it, but that's what seperates us from good NFL coaches. Upon contemplation, there is no doubt in my mind that is why Philliips did what he did. Let's look at the facts - even if the Cowboys score a touchdown there, it didn't matter, they lose the game anyway. No team was beating the Patriots at that point in the game the way they were playing, Phillips clearly saw that and definitely made the right call to basically concede the game there. The game was lost, it's a long season, and Phillips gained a lot of respect from me with that call.

    If you understood coaching better, you'd understand what it means for example for a dope manager to blow out pitcher's arms in a pitching staff during a season, and for a dope coach to overwork football players in training camp and during the season...then you've got nothing left for the upcoming games or the rest of the season. It's a long season and it's all about pacing a team and not being stupid when a game is lost...risking fatigue and possible injury.

    Believe me - I hate making a pro-Dallas post like this but I have to call it as it is...well done by Wade Phillips. I wish Jerry Jones would have hired another dope for a coach but unfortunately as an Eagles fan he's got a very good football coach there who undersatands how to coach...and who I'm afraid will cause trouble for the Eagles possibly for years to come. Hopefully Andy Reid can outsmart him - I certainly hope so.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Steve,

    I understand the point you're trying to make, but don't agree at all with your logic in this situation. Do you truly believe that the Cowboys felt they had no chance to beat New England today? I find that extraordinarily hard to believe, especially since for a large part of the game they were very competitive and if last week's game against Buffalo proved anything, it's that you always have a chance to win if you keep playing hard and have talent like the Cowboys do. Would the Cowboys have won if they'd scored a TD on that drive? Maybe, maybe not, actually probably not, but we'll never know for sure. The most basic rule of coaching is to get your players to play hard for 60 minutes. It's not like Wade was playing guys that were hurt out there, and it'd send absolutely the wrong message to "concede" a game like this one. What is the message you're sending to your team then? That you're good, but not good enough to compete with an elite team like the Patriots? You can't make an analogy between a pitcher who throws to many pitches or a team getting overworked in training camp--this was a highly competitive game between two udefeated teams. NE is definitely a better team, IMO, but the better team doesn't always get the W in the NFL.


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< Do you truly believe that the Cowboys felt they had no chance to beat New England today? >>>

    Of course not, but the correct answer to your question if asking it adding "when that field goal was kicked"...the answer is "Yes" at that point Phillips knew the Cowboys weren't going to beat the Patriots today. If you were watching the game and watched the ebb and flow of the game, it was clear the Patriots weren't going to be denied this win. If the Cowboys somehow stepped it up, the Patriots would have stepped it up further.

    That was the beauty of the call...it was so logical, so easy to go for the touchdown, but Phillips analyzed the entire situation and basically conceded the game. I mean the Cowboys just wren't going to score two touchdowns after the field goal, and the Patriots weren't going to not score at all...that just wasn't going to happen and Phillips comprehending all that was him conceding the game.

    The Cowboys are still way ahead in the East, the Patriots are an AFL team and have no influence in the NFC as far as their records in the NFC playoff picture, and most importantly, there are still 10 games left for the cowboys, and Phillips kept his players fresher. It scares me the brilliance of that call and how now there is a formidable, smart coach with the Cowboys. Believe me, I wish he would have just went for the touchdown.

    Someone said the players are paid to win...well of couse that's true but coaches are paid to win championships, especially in Dallas....and Phillips looked at the big picture when making that call, and again...the call was by far the correct call given all the circumstances.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course not, but the correct answer to your question if asking it adding "when that field goal was kicked"...the answer is "Yes" at that point Phillips knew the Cowboys weren't going to beat the Patriots today.

    You may be right in that the Cowboys had little chance to win that game, and as a fan watching the game, I'm sure you thought that, too, but I do not believe that the Cowboys as a team thought that at the time. Great players ALWAYS think they have a chance to emerge victorious, no matter what the circumstances are. And I've seen many games where a team that seemingly has no shot to win, somehow pulls out a victory. It doesn't happen very often, but there is always that chance, and it would be foolhardy to coach otherwise, especially when a TD at that point brings you to within one score. It may have been a "logical" choice in your eyes, Steve, for Phillips to concede the game at that point, but I doubt anyone on the Cowboys side of the field truly felt that way. In addition, what could be gained by Phillips conceding the game anyway? Was Romo so exhausted that he couldn't throw one more twenty yard pass to the end zone in that situation? Was Phillips trying to protect his club from feeling bad about themselves? It just doesn't make sense that the Cowboys would just concede the game, even if the likelihood of them winning was not very likely.


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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Of course not, but the correct answer to your question if asking it adding "when that field goal was kicked"...the answer is "Yes" at that point Phillips knew the Cowboys weren't going to beat the Patriots today.

    You may be right in that the Cowboys had little chance to win that game, and as a fan watching the game, I'm sure you thought that, too, but I do not believe that the Cowboys as a team thought that at the time. Great players ALWAYS think they have a chance to emerge victorious, no matter what the circumstances are. And I've seen many games where a team that seemingly has no shot to win, somehow pulls out a victory. It doesn't happen very often, but there is always that chance, and it would be foolhardy to coach otherwise, especially when a TD at that point brings you to within one score. It may have been a "logical" choice in your eyes, Steve, for Phillips to concede the game at that point, but I doubt anyone on the Cowboys side of the field truly felt that way. In addition, what could be gained by Phillips conceding the game anyway? Was Romo so exhausted that he couldn't throw one more twenty yard pass to the end zone in that situation? Was Phillips trying to protect his club from feeling bad about themselves? It just doesn't make sense that the Cowboys would just concede the game, even if the likelihood of them winning was not very likely. >>



    Well, don't forget there always could be something behind the scenes that we don't see. Perhaps Romo or whoever was cramping up or got a little nicked up or something like that. Well, we'll never know for sure because Phillips for sure would never say that he was conceding the game or he'd be heavily fined by the NFL. Even coaches who gained a bye and home field advantage in the playoffs with a game or two left in the regular season, and play only their second team and are obviously basically conceding the game, would never say that. It just seems to me that everything points in that direction with what Phillips did and in my view it was the correct call to make. But you know I respect your viewpoint as well and certainly understand it. All of which makes NFL football one heckuva game to watch, enjoy, and analyze. image
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    would ya like one lump or two matt lol, did emmitt commentate or was it on another channel?
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It could have been worse image >>



    Yes, the "Other 81" in my sig-line would have been MUCH worse. image

    Congrats to the 'boys for at least having the lead for a few minutes -- the game certainly was closer than the final score indicated. I expect the Cowboys will have less offensive penalties if they make it to a re-match in the Super Bowl (IF the Pats get past Indy).
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>would ya like one lump or two matt lol, did emmitt commentate or was it on another channel?
    randy
    i missed it,working on a website >>



    Just one lump Randy.

    Hopefully its the only lump of the year, if you know what I mean image
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