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MeijiMeiji Posts: 170 ✭✭
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Is this coin really XF45??? I am not a pro when grading coins but still....
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  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Looks like the same one that Roman was questioning in his other thread. image

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These are very tough to grade... I would not try to grade based on a scan/picture because the lustre is an obvious factor that is often difficult to judge if the coin is not in hand

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  • GDJMSPGDJMSP Posts: 799 ✭
    As someone who collected those for 30 years, I would say no. Yes it is weakly struck, but even accounting for that the coin is not worthy of a XF45 grade IMO. Low VF at best.
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  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508 ✭


    << <i>As someone who collected those for 30 years, I would say no. Yes it is weakly struck, but even accounting for that the coin is not worthy of a XF45 grade IMO. Low VF at best. >>



    Doug,

    It seems like a lot of that series is very weakly struck, would you say that is an accurate assessment as it pertains to their minting technology?

    thanks!

    Doug
  • GDJMSPGDJMSP Posts: 799 ✭
    Yeah, there are a lot that are weakly struck. But there are far more that are not. For the most part, I would attribute the weakly struck coins to the mint employees being lazy and in a hurry far more than I would the minting technology.

    For example - this coin is from the same mint, albeit a bit later.

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    And while it is not fully struck, it is nearly so. It is also a much more typical example. As is this one from an earlier period, also from the same mint.


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    And just as an FYI - the first coin is graded AU by NGC, and the second is graded XF by Dan Sedwick.
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  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508 ✭


    << <i>Yeah, there are a lot that are weakly struck. But there are far more that are not. For the most part, I would attribute the weakly struck coins to the mint employees being lazy and in a hurry far more than I would the minting technology.

    For example - this coin is from the same mint, albeit a bit later.



    And while it is not fully struck, it is nearly so. It is also a much more typical example. As is this one from an earlier period, also from the same mint.




    And just as an FYI - the first coin is graded AU by NGC, and the second is graded XF by Dan Sedwick. >>




    hmmm....good info there! yes, i would have to agree that those are pretty well struck indeed! I would agree with the top coin being AU, and the bottom coin looks like AU also. Do you think Mr. Sedwick is using the British XF grading scale, that bascially equates it to AU?

    great input, thanks!

    Doug
  • RickeRicke Posts: 677 ✭


    << <i>As someone who collected those for 30 years, I would say no. Yes it is weakly struck, but even accounting for that the coin is not worthy of a XF45 grade IMO. Low VF at best. >>



    Could not agree more.

    I might venture a mid grade VF, but XF is a little bit of a stretch.
  • RickeRicke Posts: 677 ✭


    << <i>
    hmmm....good info there! yes, i would have to agree that those are pretty well struck indeed! I would agree with the top coin being AU, and the bottom coin looks like AU also. Do you think Mr. Sedwick is using the British XF grading scale, that bascially equates it to AU?

    great input, thanks!

    Doug >>



    Nah, he's just conservative. I picked up this one from Lima from him - was my first purchase, and he called it XF.

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    Personally, I think this coin speaks to soft strike better than the slabbed example linked from PCGS above... I would imagine this piece would probably grade well, keep in mind it's a pretty poor quality scan.
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