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I reported this coin yest., buts its still on EBAY?

lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
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Does EBAY generally need more than one person to report? Or, is there some processing time involved?

Fake?
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Wow, that's weird. I checked some of his other auctions and they looked legit.

    I've e-mailed eBay before about fake coins and many times they have responded with, "We can't be certain, blah blah blah" and just let it go.

    Buyer beware.
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  • lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    Yes, all others looked fine....i was just concerned with this one fake that I noticed....maybe he/she tried to slip it in?
    In Loving Memory of my Dad......My best friend, My inspiration, and My Coin Collecting Partner

    "La Vostra Nonna Ha Faccia Del Fungo"
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I reported too. Wait and see, now.

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  • kimon1230kimon1230 Posts: 747 ✭✭
    If his other auctions are legit, could it be that he doesn't know it's a fake?
    Has anyone contacted the seller directly?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    What makes you think it is a fake?
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  • lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    What makes you think it is a fake?

    a few things immediately stick out.....overall appearance, lettering, date, mintmark to name a few
    In Loving Memory of my Dad......My best friend, My inspiration, and My Coin Collecting Partner

    "La Vostra Nonna Ha Faccia Del Fungo"
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you report a counterfeit coin to eBay, you need to be very specific with an explanation of why it is identifiable as a counterfeit. For example, "the date on the coin is not aligned, and all genuine coins of this date have the date aligned at the bottom", rather than just saying "the coin is counterfeit". Not sure exactly what was reported to eBay in this case, I'm just pointing out that the reports need to be specific enough so that a person at eBay who doesn't know coins will be able to verify that the coin is bogus and remove it from eBay.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    thx richieurich....wasn't sure of the normal protocol...Thank u
    In Loving Memory of my Dad......My best friend, My inspiration, and My Coin Collecting Partner

    "La Vostra Nonna Ha Faccia Del Fungo"
  • oxy8890oxy8890 Posts: 1,416 ✭


    << <i>What makes you think it is a fake? >>



    Appearance and mintmark. Especially the mintmark, it does not look right to me at all. But I am not a Morgan expert.
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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>thx richieurich....wasn't sure of the normal protocol...Thank u >>



    No problem, lkrarecoins. EBay doesn't tell you the protocol, I just happened to realize this after reporting many, many bogus coins to eBay! Good work!

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • dac076dac076 Posts: 817 ✭
    That raises a good question. How does Ebay determine if the complaint is legit or not? In some cases, it may be obvious. But in others, it may seem like one word against another. Do they have any coin experts on staff? (Doubtful). Or do they have to contact experts to "vet" the coin and determine if the complaint has merit? If so, that could take at least a day or two.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Ebay is a very large, slow, beaurocracy. Any big company gets that way. This is the logic of collective action. They don't have numismatists so they have to make a decision on the validity of the report. If you present it in a way that makes it clear to a layman and present it professionally, you'll likely get better results than a 5 word report, "This is a fake POS." I'm not saying you did that but I want to point that out for others. Also, I've had better luck reporting them verbally to my account rep who passes it on to trust and safety.

    But the bottom line is, they don't have the staff to always get to everything that gets reported. And if they contact the lister and he says, "Nope, I'm sure it's real" that slows them down even more.

    --Jerry
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That raises a good question. How does Ebay determine if the complaint is legit or not? In some cases, it may be obvious. But in others, it may seem like one word against another. Do they have any coin experts on staff? (Doubtful). Or do they have to contact experts to "vet" the coin and determine if the complaint has merit? If so, that could take at least a day or two. >>



    When I report a fake coin I make it clear that I believe it is fake and I have the opinions expert collectors and dealers very familiar with the series who believe it is fake. But you're right, it comes down to your word against the sellers so the more airtight you can make it for the layman ebay trust and safety guy, the easier it is for them to end it. --jerry
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does EBAY generally need more than one person to report? Or, is there some processing time involved?

    Fake? >>



    It is a Chinese counterfeit, and the seller has withdrawn it. Give him the benefit of the doubt for not knowing it was bad before, and listening to what people said.

    When reporting something like this, be very specific. On this one I would have said "Typical Chinese counterfeit. This mint mark style not used after 1880" or something like that. I have a very good report/kill ratio.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

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