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Have you ever heard a dealer say “don’t buy that coin because all you will do is make me rich (with

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
I encountered almost this exact same statement but in the non-coin context. I was speaking with one of the most preeminent tax lawyers in the country today. I was seeking his written opinion on a particular transaction. As I explained what I was looking for, he told me what he needed to do, and it would cost me $300,000. Then he said, “honestly, you don’t need this opinion from me. All you will be doing is wasting money and making me rich. Just go ahead and do the transaction.”

Needless to say I was shocked. Then I wondered if anyone has encountered this type of reaction in the coin context. Have you ever been willing to purchase a coin and have a dealer broker the trade (let’s say for 10% or whatever the going rate), and that dealer actually tell you not to bother with the coin and all you will be accomplishing is making the dealer rich with the commission? Have you had any other experiences where you were told that the only one who will win on the deal is the dealer and you should not do the transaction?
Always took candy from strangers
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have had this same thing happen many times in my law practice (can't say the same for coins though). Many times a client will have a case that presents multiple legal issues. The litigation of same to obtain a decision on the merits from a court or arbitrator will do nothing other than drain the client's resources and capital. This will enrich no one except the lawyers and leave the client, even if he or she wins the case, in a worse position they are in now.

    When that happens, I tell my clients to not spend their money on me. New clients I say this to are surprised. Existing clients who have heard it before appreciate the advice.
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    L.S. has told me no on certain coins in her inventory several times.
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424


    << <i>L.S. has told me no on certain coins in her inventory several times. >>



    Same!
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • One dealer that I work with has told me, on two occasions, not to buy certain coins in his inventory.
  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    I'd guess that just about everyone who has a good relationship with a dealer has been warned away from a coin or two.

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On average, I talk my clients out of at least 80% of the coins they want to buy. Needless to say, I'm more successful as a wholesaler.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    I knew you'd be in the coin biz after all that free advice last night.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Oh, and good luck. Don't forget the free advice that Han Solo gave Luke in episode 4.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    In my experience, that's not that unusual in numismatics.

    Most better dealers will try to sell clients coins that they'll like, and not coins that they won't like. It's just good business. A happy customer is a repeat customer.

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