What Registry Set is most respected? What set is laughed at?

ModMan

I'd imagine no one really takes the Sac Set seriously. Then again...
How about the SBA set? Serious? No? How about the short set of Walkers? Competitive?

I'd have to guess the Morgans are up there along with the full set of 144 early Commemoratives.

What set is the most popular? Are there sets that don't even have five participants yet?

MarkJude

I think every collector is going to answer this question according to their current focus. Maybe they are new to the hobby and need obtainable goals like the SAC set or SBAs. Other, more advanced collectors are going to set their sights on bigger goals.

I think the last thing we should do on these boards is "belittle" any collection and simply admire the person for undertaking the challenge.

For me and my family, we started small and are working our way up to bigger challenges. Along the way we have "met" some great people here who helped us achieve our goal and provided a lot of encouragement and support. I have never felt like I was working toward a subpar set, just working on one I could achieve...

That's my two cents...

MarkJude

wondercoin

"I'd imagine no one really takes the Sac Set seriously. Then again"

Modman: Did Supercoin's $4,700.00 Sac Dollar offering spur this on? Just because a mere (5) total coins out of the mintage of 5,000 Goodacres have been graded (4 MS68s and 1 MS69), why shouldn't it be worth $4,700.00? Just a mere 20% of those graded ever achieved that grade!!! And, after all, the sale of that coin won't even cover a single semester of Supercoin's kid's college!!! I am closely watching this coin; I may take the Sac set VERY SERIOUSLY!! Wondercoin.

RegistryCoin

I think probably Mark has something to his statement, but I have to go with MM's two selections.

gmarguli

Most respected? The 144 piece commemorative set is not respected. I have no idea why these coins don't get more respect, but they are not highly liked. I love them, they have some of the most beautiful designs and they can be found in gem grade for very reasonable prices, but most people ignore these coins.

Morgans are probably the most respected, but that doesn't mean that they are the toughest set to put together. It'd be easier and cheaper to put together a great set of Morgans that a set of proof $20 Libs or MS St. Gaudens.

Personally, I think all sets are a joke. It's based on grade only. There is so much more to a coin than a grade on an insert. Perhaps the Proof State Quarter set is the biggest joke. The proof Sacagawea with only 2 coins needed is a major joke.

braddick

Is there a Proof Sac. Registry? I wasn't aware of that.

I think Tad's MS69 is a $10,000.00 coin IF the coin enters the Registy as a mandated coin. Maybe even more?

If I had Tad's asking price in the bank (disposable income) I'd jump on it. It's probably not a question of 'if' but 'when' PCGS requires this one (think about it: the 1979 Wide Date SBA is now required...).

RegistryCoin

Hi, Greg. Is it so much they aren't respected, or is the thought of completing the classic silver commemorative set somewhat awesome, viewed as an overwhelming undertaking?
That would be a big and healthy repect, in my opinion. Sometimes, as in this case, in my opinion, fear and respect go hand in hand.
But, I think the fear will subside with the onset of the subset, in commems, and will lessen the fear, leaving just the respect.
I am fearful of the Morgans, as well, as they are also an awesome undertaking, but that fuels the obvious respect they have deservedly garnered.

dragon

To me, ANY set where someone would buy a coin that they would never normally want or buy if it were not for their registry set ranking. I don't know if this makes it a joke or not but I sure know who's laughing all the way to the bank.

Dragon

RegistryCoin

What if the thread's title read: "Which registry set collector is most respected? Who is laughed at?" Wouldn't that be more fun to respond to?

RickyRacer

Ladies and Gentelmen, PLEASE!!!! All collections my it be a set of MS65 SBA's or a CHEAP set in PROOF 69DC's. IT'S a HOBBY!!!!! I do understand of all the deep pockets we have here. Lots of income, But PLEASE DON'T RAG on us Hobby People.
OUR $200.00 is just as important to us as your $20,000.00 is to you!
Your Fellow Collector,
Rick

CarlWohlforth

Either this board was working better for you all yesterday than me, or you have more patience

I respect all sets and all collectors. However there is one set that truly made me LOL. That is braddick's lowest grade type set. Now that was about the funniest concept I've heard about. I didn't expect to see what I saw and I just broke out laughing.

As to commems, like all things other people collect I am interested in them. I won't collect them though until I finish with "regular" US coins. I know next to nothing about them. Therefore they don't get as much respect from me as they would from a more knowledgable person.

braddick

Carl, Thanks. Some of these are stoppers in problem free, smooth- lower grades. A PO01 grade is as difficult in some series as high Mint State is due to the way the coin wears. If there is too much wear- generally what is required for the full PO01 grade, the date and/or MM are gone. That's the catch 22: If one of those is missing PCGS won't grade the coin (unless it is a one year type coin, like the Chain Cent where a date is not necessary to ID the year).
If you have anything I need be aware on some of these I'll pay full MS prices for the coin!
(Details on my "me" page under eBay, 'braddick').
-Pat

BigD5

I think the set that should be laughed at is the one put together by a collector who is just collecting by the number on the slab. I find that funny. If you are putting together a type set registy and are eagerly persuing a coin which you don't care for in the least, whatever that may be, and you want to spend money on something that you don't even like, just so you can move up a notch or two, or whatever up some fictional ladder..........That's a riot! To me anyway The most respected set would matter on the collector. If he/she respects their own set, who's to argue a level of respect for that collection? Not me.

Cocoinut

Most respected set? The complete type set from 1792-1964. Serious coins for serious collectors.

Least respected? At this point, the Sac set. Let's see... if 20% make MS69, that's 1000 coins. How many coins with a pop of 1000 in MS69 are really worth $4700? P.T. Barnum had the right idea.

Carl, thanks for the reminder about Braddick's type set, but I DO respect that. It must have taken a lot of searching to locate some of those beauties. Will we ever see pictures of them??

ModMan, the SBA's are a close second, but I think the Walker short set has some respectability in grades above MS65. Walker sets have traditionally been broken into three categories: the complete set, 1934-47, and 1941-47. Face it, not many collections are going to have a '19-D or '21-S in any MS grade, and most pre-1934 dates are in a different class, pricewise, than the later issues. Even in lower grades, a short set is an attractive obsolete set, and contains coins that you generally won't find in the neighborhood coin shop any day of the week.

Jim

Dennisl

I have to agree with Mitch about the Sac Dollars:
1) Pop 1 2000 Goodacre for $4700
2) Pop 6 2000 P MS69 $2000+
3) Pop 4 2001 P MS69 $2000+
4) Pop 1 2001 D MS68 $1200+

Lets see, $9900 to buy 4 coins in the set. I guess no one else thinks $9900 is serious money.
I also agree with Mark's Statement: I think the last thing we should do on these boards is "belittle" any collection and simply admire the person for undertaking the challenge.

kieferscoins

I agree with Cocoinut that the type set is the most respected. I started out with mercury dimes, but grew tired and then started my 1792-1964 Type Set I have most of the modern stuff, but I am finding out how much fun it is to find the older coins.

Cameron Kiefer

gary

Jim,480,431 total coins graded with ELEVEN ms69 that seems like a low numer..gary

blato1

If fear equals respect, how about the Proof Liberty Head $20 Gold 1859 to 1907 (or even the circulated set - 1850 to 1907). To be a real player in the Proof set, you'll need about $1,000,000 and change, plus years to locate and acquire the coins.

Getting back to reality, I agree that the Complete Type Set 1792-1964 is a prestigious set with serious competition at various levels (including me).

pmh1nic

It's not an official registry set but my grandson takes his state quarter board that he is dutifully filling very seriously .

Spooly

pmh1nic

gmarguli

RegistryCoin, I really think the commemoratives aren't respected. You undertook the 144 piece set, and since I'm trying to do the same, I can attest to what a major task it is. Just finding the commemoratives can be a task, regardless or grade. However, someone could easily start the 50 piece set. I've encountered very few people who have tried to put together even a 50 piece set, even though there are scores of people trying to put together Morgan sets which are going to cost more, or people trying to put together Lincoln sets that have much more than 144 coins. I bet there are more people out there that have bought a single 2¢ or a 3¢ piece, even though they don't collect them, than has bought a single commemorative.

Maybe it's the cost of the individual coins? You can't find many of the commemoratives for under $100, but you can get dozens of Morgans and most Lincolns for a few dollars. Whatever the reason, whatever makes them cheaper for me I happy.

RegistryCoin

Perhaps, you're right, Greg. Perhaps fear doesn't equal respect. Maybe fear is fear, and a desire to do a Morgan set is just some long held desire. But,I guess I would respect you more for putting together your commem set, over any attempt to do a Morgan set. That may be my point. Thanks.

howie08

ModMan : I kind of resent the " slam " on the SBA set. Sure , it's an easy set to complete in MS65 , but when you get into the 66's and 67's ( the 81S doesn't even have any 67's ) it becomes more difficult to find the coins . These coins always have scratches , gouges , low lustre , etc.
Besides , this is a family hobby for us ( me and my family ) and we have fun just looking through rolls of coins trying to find one to submit , or trying to find one on the auctions or from dealers at a price we can ( collectively ) afford. We'd love to be able to do some high dollar set , but know our limitations and enjoy what we do collect. This hobby is full of both " deep pocket and shallow pocket " collectors , and we all enjoy the " chase and acquisition " of the coin , and I'm sure my $ 200 " Suzie " means as much to me as someone else's $ 5000 whatever does to them. I don't think anyones set should be looked down upon. We're all here because we love to collect , no matter what level we do it at.

michael

to me sets of coins are important if put together by a collector. and since the registry is made up of coin sets put together by collectors they are respected and none are better or worse than other sets. maybe some have more points and that is just the way it is..... but all to me are respected and really nothing to laugh at. but of course everyone has their own tohughts on the matter and many divergent opinions and rightly so but to be a true collector you respect everyones choices. sincerely michael

shirohniichan

Personally, I think all sets are a joke. It's based on grade only. There is so much more to a coin than a grade on an insert. Perhaps the Proof State Quarter set is the biggest joke. The proof Sacagawea with only 2 coins needed is a major joke.

You've got a great sense of humor, so does that mean that you like these joke sets more than others?

The 144 piece commemorative set is not respected. I have no idea why these coins don't get more respect, but they are not highly liked. I love them, they have some of the most beautiful designs and they can be found in gem grade for very reasonable prices, but most people ignore these coins.

It's easy to see why these coins aren't respected-- because they are NCLT (non-circulating legal tender) just like Star Trek coins from the Marshall Islands. (OK, now let's see how many people can take a joke).

kyleknap

For all of you people talking about what that damn SAC is worth, let me ask you this...
be honest.....

Would you pay $4700 for that coin if it were in a 2x2 flip?

Would you crack it out and resubmit it?