IKE EXPERTS - are either of these the 72 Type 2

Boom

Excuse the bad pix. I lightened them just a bit so you can get a better idea. Thanx.



They're different from most others.

tightbudget

No.

cullenbryant

i'd say the one on the left is type I and the one on the right is type III

Boom

If you have a shot of a T-2, could you post it please.

Thank you.

Coll3ctor

Click Me !!!

tightbudget

Per Boom's request:



It's from the link Coll3ctor posted.

Boom

OK. Thanks guys. So ... as I understand it, the T-2 basically has no distinct islands then, right?

I just got a few in and they are actually quite nice but I can't (couldn't) tell one from the other.

I appreciate it.

ProofArtworkonCircs

I am not really sure on your second original picture, but I vote for two type 1's.
The key to type 2 is the touchup is incuse instead of relief.

19Lyds

<< <i>OK. Thanks guys. So ... as I understand it, the T-2 basically has no distinct islands then, right? >>



Boom, study the Earth on the reverse of the 1971-S Silver Proof as this Earth is what you should look for on the Type 2 IKE business strike reverse for 1972 as that was the die which was used to produce this rarity. There are 3 islands but they are not represented by convex elements. They are actually incused outlines of islands. As a matter of fact, nearly all the elements that make up the Earth are represented by incused lines.

Of note, extreme wear on the earth can remove lightly struck islands so the next key to look for is the shape of Florida. On the Type 2, it has a trangular shape that almost ends in a point. Very thick at the top and narrow at the bottom. To be able to spot these right off takes looking at a lot of IKEs. I remember the first one I bought and had paid a couple of hundred for. It just didn't look any different than the others. Only after searching for and finding a couple was I able to spot it!



Obverse markers are a weakly struck L and I in the word LIBERTY.

Boom

Thanks for all the help. I do appreciate it.

Lee, if it's OK with you I'd like to save your picture for future reference.

This way I won't have to bug you guys about this again.

You've all been very helpful.

Thanx again!

ProofArtworkonCircs

Somebody on eBay was recently trying to sell a type 2 dollar where the "incuse" islands looked like a chisel blow. It had no bids the last I knew.

Boom

Hey ! HEY!! HEEEEEEEYYYYYYY! I GOT ONE!!!!!

YES!!! Incuse, eh?

jimmymac

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<< <i>OK. Thanks guys. So ... as I understand it, the T-2 basically has no distinct islands then, right? >>



Boom, study the Earth on the reverse of the 1971-S Silver Proof as this Earth is what you should look for on the Type 2 IKE business strike reverse for 1972 as that was the die which was used to produce this rarity. There are 3 islands but they are not represented by convex elements. They are actually incused outlines of islands. As a matter of fact, nearly all the elements that make up the Earth are represented by incused lines.

Of note, extreme wear on the earth can remove lightly struck islands so the next key to look for is the shape of Florida. On the Type 2, it has a trangular shape that almost ends in a point. Very thick at the top and narrow at the bottom. To be able to spot these right off takes looking at a lot of IKEs. I remember the first one I bought and had paid a couple of hundred for. It just didn't look any different than the others. Only after searching for and finding a couple was I able to spot it!



Obverse markers are a weakly struck L and I in the word LIBERTY. >>




been looking at a lot of IKE's lately from my deceased mother's hoard and I totally agree - need to look at a lot before you are able to pick out the differences - so far, found 1971D FEP but still looking for the elusive 1972 Type II - need to go back again and look closely of what I have - THANKS!!!!

19Lyds

<< <i>Hey ! HEY!! HEEEEEEEYYYYYYY! I GOT ONE!!!!!

YES!!! Incuse, eh? >>



Pics if you can please!

I think the joy of finding one of these is a real rush! Especially after endless hours and days of searching!

Boom

I'm trying but I have limited skill and a camera that I don't know how to use to it's fullest.

I just put the loupe to it, right under the Reveal and the islands are definitely incuse.!

ModernDollarNut

"been looking at a lot of IKE's lately from my deceased mother's hoard and I totally agree - need to look at a lot before you are able to pick out the differences - so far, found 1971D FEP but still looking for the elusive 1972 Type II - need to go back again and look closely of what I have - THANKS!!!!"

jimmymac, did your mother obrained her Ikes locally? If so, the East coast yields more '71 T2's than FEP's whereas the Western half of the nation yields more FEP's than T2's.

Just a function of the Federal Reserve Banks supplied by the Philly and Denver mints respectively. Rob

Boom

I'm going to need someone with a lot more skill to do something with what I managed to take.

jimmymac

<< <i>"been looking at a lot of IKE's lately from my deceased mother's hoard and I totally agree - need to look at a lot before you are able to pick out the differences - so far, found 1971D FEP but still looking for the elusive 1972 Type II - need to go back again and look closely of what I have - THANKS!!!!"

jimmymac, did your mother obrained her Ikes locally? If so, the East coast yields more '71 T2's than FEP's whereas the Western half of the nation yields more FEP's than T2's.

Just a function of the Federal Reserve Banks supplied by the Philly and Denver mints respectively. Rob >>





lived in the Washingotn, DC area when growing up so she got them there - THANKS for the tip - like I said, need to go back and check things out again - this thread has been a tremendous help to me - next time I plan to have a pics of the reverse of the 3 1972 types in front of me - also going to look to see if there are any gem 1972 Type I's - nice premium in MS 66 - I guess this is what it's all about - THE HUNT!!!!!