For Sale: Registry Ikes, SBAs, Sacagaweas - Including finest-known Goodacre!

supercoin

Finally some new coins!

Included are a couple registry-quality Ikes (a 71-P and 76-P Ty1 in MS65), a variety of MS67 SBA dollars (including the best 1980-S I've handled yet), and...

The one-and-only finest-known (to PCGS and me, anyway!) Glenna Goodacre Sacagawea dollar. This is the nicest of these coins that I've seen, and I personally set it aside shortly after the 2500 coins were released, in the hopes that PCGS would one day certify them. That day came a while back, and a couple months ago I sent this one in.

2000 is my son's birth year, and I had planned to save this coin for him, but when it came back in the grade it did... that being MS69... well, I have to pay for his college too.

I priced it by the higly scientific method of determining what I would regret selling it for, and adding on 50% margin of error.

But hey, with "raw" coins (ICG holdered but ungraded) consistently bringing over $400 on eBay, it's like buying an MS68 State Quarter for about $3.00.

Happy looking, and/or buying!

keithdagen

Nice work on that Sac, don't expect that it will last long in inventory. Better yet, keep it and hope that PCGS makes it a mandatory variety. That should pay for all four years and graduate school at that point.

Keith

braddick

Keith brings up a good point. I do believe PCGS will make the Goodacre a mantory variety for the Sacagaweas. If so- that could be the first $10,000.00 super Modern.

Spooly

keithdagen

supercoin

Thanks Keith, and you may be right -- I actually have already had a couple nibbles on the coin and it's nearly midnight here!

braddick, can I quote you on that figure for marketing purposes?

My *guess* is it will be required in future registries since the Sacagawea set is so short, and the coin is readily available and affordable in typical condition. Certainly affordable compared to some of the big-money varieties in other registry sets.

And it's just a cool coin -- how many other series can you buy a coin that was specially presented to the designer of the series as payment for their work?

wondercoin

WOW! $4700 FOR A SAC!! Good luck with the sale. If you get this coin sold, you might not be able to use that "net worth" argument again!! Wondercoin.

supercoin

Hey clad boy,

$2000 state quarter / $0.25 = 8000
$4700 Goodacre Sac / $400 = 12

Want me to visit your next sell post?

wondercoin

Supercoin: Rather than the name calling ("clad boy"), simply explain why you believe a coin which has seen but 5 pieces graded out of a mintage of 5,000 (2,500 of which remain untouched with Goodacre I understand) with the LOWEST GRADE EVER ACHIEVING AN MS68 should command $4,700 in MS69. Your analysis is what makes these topics interesting. "Clad boy" would have no problem explaining why he believes an MS69 GA(P) State Quarter would easily be a $5,000-$10,000 coin. WHY DO YOU BELIEVE AN MS69 IN THIS GOODACRE IS A GRADE WHERE THE JUMP IN PRICE SHOULD BE NEARLY 8X THE MS68 GRADE PRICE-WHERE THE TYPICAL GRADE THUS FAR FOR THIS COIN TYPE IS AT LEAST MS68? Also, what is your buy/sell spread on this coin at this time? In other words, what would you pay right now for the pop -2- coin in MS69, if another was made this month? This is all interesting discussion. Thoughts from serious Sac buyers? Wondercoin.

KoinKollector

nevermind

RegistryCoin

It seems that an answer to Mitch's question would be a nice thing to hear. I'd also like to understand why a coin, the ms69, is worth so much. 80% of the coins slabbed are ms68s. It seems to me that a coin that represents 20% of the entire pcgs pop, would not be so rare as the price suggests. Any thoughts?

supercoin

Sheesh Mitch -- if you can't take the joke then don't make 'em! Please note the , it's called tongue-in-cheek, you might recall I sell a few Ikes and SBAs myself, you know, which were clad coins last I checked. Some even call the Sacs clad coins. So I'm a full-fledged clad boy myself.

My only serious point was that I think it's poor form to jump into my sell thread with your opinions of valuation. If I started a thread titled "SACAGAWEA DOLLARS ON THE RISE!!! OPINIONS???" that might be different.

Back to pretty pictures:


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KoinKollector

This is rich.
Mitch you sell these "type" of coins all the time for prices I dont agree with, but hey you still sell them. Tad offers for sale a legit pop 1 coin and your all over this thread like stink on poop. I dont get it.

keithdagen

Tad,

How much to "rent" the certificate number?

Keith

Dennisl

Have you seen what some of the other Sacs have brought? Some of these are getting expensive.


Pop 6 2000 P MS69 $2000 - $2500
Pop 4 2001 P MS69 $2000 - $2500
Pop 1 2001 D MS68 $1200+

If the Goodacre becomes a required coin then it might fetch that price. I personally don't think the Goodacre should be a required coin. It is not a variety, just a coin used as legal tender to pay Mrs. Goodacre for her work on the design of the coin. Even the Millennium Sac is not a variety, just the same coin in a different packaging.

keithdagen

Dennis,

Never seen a Goodacre, so I can't comment knowledgably, but agree. The "Millenium" Sac has surfaces that are Proof-Like and are differenct from the regular Sacs. That was intentionial from the Mint's standpoint, so it is a variety.

Keith

Dennisl

Keith
Did the mint ever acknowledge that there was a difference in the minting process? I thought that they did not deny or admit to anything. I have multiple non Millennium, non Goodacre Sacs that are prooflike. I tried to get PCGS to label them as such without success.

pmh1nic

Wondercoin arguing that a super high grade modern low pop coin isn't worth the $4,700 asking price! This should be an interesting discussion.

supercoin

Last I heard the mint still "knew nothing", which of course they have a long history of doing.

There are numerous examples of prooflike (as far as reflectivity) Sacagaweas out there, as well as other clad coins such as Ikes and SBAs, but PCGS so far has yet to acknowledge any of them.

The typical Millennium Sac is still much flashier than the typical mint set or circulation Sac, and also has a bit of a "glossy" look to it, rather than a mirrored look, if that makes any sense.

The Goodacre coins have even more of this "glossy" or "wet" look, different than any prooflike Sacagawea I've seen.

I'm quite confident I could pick a Goodacre out of any lineup with near-100% accuracy, and a nice Millennium set at least most of the time.

I have to put the "nice" caveat on the Millennium coin, as many of them do not have the nice signature glossy look, and in fact some of them are not "burnished" at all, they're basically normal coins (and inexplicably, sell for huge premiums when labelled as such by ICG).

supercoin

Just remembered these photos that I posted some time ago on this same subject, note the increasing reflectivity and more importantly "glossiness"...

Sacagawea Dollar 2000-P Regular Issue
Sacagawea Dollar 2000-P Regular Issue, Semi-Prooflike
Sacagawea Dollar 2000-D Millennium Set
Sacagawea Dollar 2000-P Glenna Goodacre

braddick

These two types of Sacagaweas definitely fall into the Variety Status. Regardless of what the Mint has told us, I've read expert opinions from both ICG and ANACS authenticators along with seeing a number of these coins to know they are minted differently than the standard mint issue- made for circulation- coins.
They should, and I'm confident will be a required coin in the Sacagawea set. Once they are these Goddacre's will reach the same pinicle any rare, pop 01 coin would reach and we'll look back on Tad's asking price of less than five thousand and say, "I wish I had bought that coin...".

pmh1nic

I don't have hands on experience with a Goodacre but there is a definite difference between standard issue Sacs and many of the Sacs that were in the Millennium sets. I think PCGS decided not to attribute the coins unless they were in the Millennium Set packaging because according to experts in the metal fabrication business the burnished finish of the Millennium Set Sacs could duplicated on regular issue sacs with equipment and materials that are readily available.