HMMMM? Too good to be true...or What?

snapmohr

Check out this ebay seller

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmtc3015

This coin is unbelievable

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-Barber-Half-Dollar-FDC-Unc-Pristine-Superlative_W0QQitemZ230175580863QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11971QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

He has plenty of them that look like that one. His Franklins are too amazing also.

Looking for opinions please...thinking of bidding but...are they too good to be true?
Thanks for the opinions
snap

UtahCoin

linky

Russ

<< <i>Payment by Money Order, Cashier's/Certified Check, sorry NO PAYPAL or credit cards, items sold as is and all sales final as estate settlement does not allow for returns. >>



That's all I need to know.

Russ, NCNE

alifaxwa2

He has previous sales/feedback up to $1500 with the same shipping rules. Looks legit to me.

Russ

<< <i>Looks legit to me. >>



That depends on how you define "legit". I'm sure the bidders will get the coins they buy. Now, whether or not they'll look as nice as the images is anybody's guess. But, I'm also sure the "inherited estate" schtick is a load of crap.

Russ, NCNE

TomB

The linked Barber half is not a business strike, it is a proof.

Russ

<< <i>The linked Barber half is not a business strike, it is a proof. >>



I was thinking the same thing, but wasn't sure.

Russ, NCNE

Edscoin

OK, I'm going to ask a dumb question. What doe's FDC stand for?

TomB

I assume that the seller means fleur de coin by writing FDC.

Goldbully

Looks like a Barber medal!!!!!!!

cmerlo1

He said the e-word.


'estate' on eBay = crap


--Christian

GoldenEyeNumismatics

I'm inclined to believe he selling good quality stuff.

bids on his coins are very strong too

coinkid855

Anybody want to guess the grade on that Barber? I say PF 67.....I am currently top bidder on it, so no one bid ;p That it one BEAUTIFUL coin.....

SUMORADA

He has some pretty neat looking "stuff".............grand dads...you gotta luv-um...!

mojoman

Why has he changed his ID so many times?
User ID Effective Date End Date

mtc3015 Sep-05-07 Present


mitokencoll May-09-07 Sep-05-07


jimandezra Aug-05-02 May-09-07


**********@aol.com Apr-28-00 Aug-05-02


Also weird bidder ID'S on this item

link


another

MAKES YOU WONDER about the old saying if it is to good to be true ................

lordmarcovan

FDC= "fleur de coin". Which basically means "Uncirculated" in many foreign grading systems.

I can't remember if FDC also includes proof coins or not.

BlindedByEgo

Nice looking Barber. Sure hope that it's not photoshopped.

Bear

The picture looks nice but why wouldn't the seller use a

reputable auction house to sell rather then E-Bay. Why

Isn't the coin slabbed. If the coin is as described, its a valuable

coin and I would not start it at 99 cents. My gut says something

is wrong here but what puzzles me is that the seller has an excellent

rating.

TavernTreasures

Must be nice to inherit a collection.

Boom

7 years on eBay @ 100% positive but, IF he offers NO RETURNS (which it would appear he doesn't < I just looked but didn't read> and NO PAYPAL) as a buyer I'd have to pass as I'd have absolutely NO OUT/ NO PROTECTION!

All that = NO BIDS form me!

Bear also raises some valid points. Why isn't a coin this outstanding certified?

If in doubt - DON'T!

JM2C Too many ifs & doubt = uncomfortable = royal plooking.

19Lyds

<< <i> Also weird bidder ID'S on this item >>



This is EBay's new method for masking userids. It replaces he bidder1, bidder2, bidder3 method.

ttown

I guess I need to pull out my proof, it looks like this barber has some big lips IMO. But since I really don't collect this series maybe I've never noticed it before.

coinkid855

So does anyone wanna tell me what they think about the grade on this coin? =/ I want to buy it, but I think you guys can probably all grade better than I can...

TomB

My own opinion is that you would have to be near insane to buy a coin like this off ebay that is an "all sales final" auction that also does not accept PayPal. If you want a proof Barber half there are many other coins out there that are much safer.

Edscoin

<< <i>OK, I'm going to ask a dumb question. What doe's FDC stand for? >>




<< <i>FDC= "fleur de coin". Which basically means "Uncirculated" in many foreign grading systems.

I can't remember if FDC also includes proof coins or not. >>



Thanks.

dugcoins

Is is possible that people collect coins and not plastic? Why does every nice coin have to be in a plastic slab? Could someone please explain this to a newbie. Before Grading companies, how did collectors make decisions on purchasing coins? If I have 1921 Peace dollar graded MS65 by NGC and crack it out and it upgrades to a PCGS MS66, isn't it still the same coin? or better yet, if I crack it out and put it in a Danso, isn't it still the same coin?


Any help would be appreciated, with that said, No, I wouldn't bid on this auction without looking at the coin in hand.

Thanks
Doug

cmerlo1

<< <i>Is is possible that people collect coins and not plastic? Why does every nice coin have to be in a plastic slab? Could someone please explain this to a newbie. Before Grading companies, how did collectors make decisions on purchasing coins? If I have 1921 Peace dollar graded MS65 by NGC and crack it out and it upgrades to a PCGS MS66, isn't it still the same coin? or better yet, if I crack it out and put it in a Danso, isn't it still the same coin?


Any help would be appreciated, with that said, No, I wouldn't bid on this auction without looking at the coin in hand.

Thanks
Doug >>



I don't think it's that the coin has to be in a slab, it's that because of the venue where it's being sold and the terms of the auction, being slabbed provides some protection that the buyer is getting a genuine coin.

pb2y

<< <i>OK, I'm going to ask a dumb question. What doe's FDC stand for? >>




For Dumb Collectors.
The photo is as phony as a three dollar bill !!

pb2y

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Russ

<< <i>Before Grading companies, how did collectors make decisions on purchasing coins? >>



The same way they should be making decisions now; by evaluating the coin in-hand before finalizing the deal. That is not an option in this case, and the risk is magnified by the fact that the coins are uncertified.

Russ, NCNE

CoinRaritiesOnline

What was the verdict on this seller? Is he selling his Grandpa's old collection, or is it a dealer with a made-up story?

Is there shill bidding (or not)?

19Lyds

Personally, I think he's a casual seller that has created a winning gimmic for getting high bids.

He's sold at least 5 Eisenhower Dollar Sets, including proof, for better than $300 each. One pulled in $500+ which to me screams either shill or extremely stupid bidders. I am not saying that a good set of IKEs shouldn't demand a premium but I hardly expect such sales figures on EBay with a "no buyer recourse" auction. (i.e. No Paypal, no credit cards, no returns!)

It was shown in one thread that this seller sold the same coin twice ( here ) or at least the same photo was used which begs the question HUH? No returns but this shows up again. If it was the same photo, then perhaps you will not received what you bid on! Too many questions.

Are shills being used? I think so but thats just me.

Reading the feedbacks also shows some interesting insights especially from our favorite seller centsles! Seems he feel like he got taken.
This seller has a very fgood ability to photograph coins to make them appear FDC whic is probably what accounts for the high bids. However, none of the IKE sets were photographed using that method so I just don;t know for sure.

I'd bid but then if I didn't like what I got, I couldn't return it so what would the point be?

MadMarty

I asked if the one of the coins they are auctioning can be viewed and/or picked up in person. Let's see if I get a reponse.

LALASD4

<< <i>Personally, I think he's a casual seller that has created a winning gimmic for getting high bids.

He's sold at least 5 Eisenhower Dollar Sets, including proof, for better than $300 each. One pulled in $500+ which to me screams either shill or extremely stupid bidders. I am not saying that a good set of IKEs shouldn't demand a premium but I hardly expect such sales figures on EBay with a "no buyer recourse" auction. (i.e. No Paypal, no credit cards, no returns!)

It was shown in one thread that this seller sold the same coin twice ( here ) or at least the same photo was used which begs the question HUH? No returns but this shows up again. If it was the same photo, then perhaps you will not received what you bid on! Too many questions.

Are shills being used? I think so but thats just me.

Reading the feedbacks also shows some interesting insights especially from our favorite seller centsles! Seems he feel like he got taken.
This seller has a very fgood ability to photograph coins to make them appear FDC whic is probably what accounts for the high bids. However, none of the IKE sets were photographed using that method so I just don;t know for sure.

I'd bid but then if I didn't like what I got, I couldn't return it so what would the point be? >>






I saw the Ike sets also, while others are getting like $150, his are going for way too much and you cannot even see the coins in his photos for the sets. That kind of make me stop looking at his other auctions, especially with no Paypal and no return, and what seems like very nice coins, something just doesn't seem right, at least to me.

options26

Yeah, now it's getting old so I am sure you will see a new estate and a new ID shortly.

Few feedbacks about cleaned coins, how about this one

Dip Gone Bad !!!