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J.T. Stanton has left PCI

Just talked to him last week, and he was really upset about the ebay policy lumping his company's slabs alongside "Star Grading Service" and "new-Mistrust"
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-Paul
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I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
While they might be a step above SGS, that one step means they have a long way to go to climb out of the basement. Personally, I believe once a company's reputation is shot, for good reason, it's virtually impossible to recover.
He may be good at what he does, and others may like him, but I have no sympathy for him, nor respect for his decision to be at PCI then leave and use Ebay's new policy as the reason. Maybe he should have worked at correcting PCI before the decision...or leaving before the decision if he wasn't happy that nothing was changing.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Ray
of the old slabs to even have a slightly positive attitude towards
them. the only thing i apprecaite about them is the red slab that
warns people of really bad coins... but boy, it has to be a turd
to get into one of those.
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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<< <i>pci consistently overgrades half eagles. . >>
PCI consistently overgrades everything. Instead of crabbing about Ebay, he should have taken this as an opportunity to tighten standards to what the old "Green Label" PCI was. Of course, this could run them out of business, as they would lose all their customers expecting their coins to be overgraded.
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And this is the same guy that forced us to wait for years for the CPG.
He might be a nice guy and have gone thru some medical issues, but sheesh.
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<< <i>Was he somehow surprised that PCI might not be trusted? >>
Probably not, but now he doesn't have a chance to set the company right, since eBay's policy will kill their business.
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<< <i>he was really upset about the ebay policy lumping his company's slabs alongside "Star Grading Service" and "new-Mistrust" >>
Well, boo hoo.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>That is too bad. JT is a stand-up guy and his signature series idea was solid. I know the 60 or so coins that got my signature were correctly graded. Now they are rare holders. >>
Ditto with the 125 or so Lincoln cents I attributed and graded.
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<< <i>Maybe now he can FINALLY update the 1/2c-5c CPG!
I just choked on my donut!!!
Should be done about 2011.
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<< <i>Maybe now he can FINALLY update the 1/2c-5c CPG!
<< <i>He must have seen that Simpson's episode where Homer tells Bart, when the going gets tough, give up. >>
<< <i>JT may be a stand up guy but PCI was a low end grading company period ! >>
PCI and SEGS both are listed in Bluesheet, both trade on the exchanges, and both trade at just a bit below ANACS on average. I bought two Arkansas-Robinsons from Coleman Foster at the TNA. One was a PCGS MS64, the other PCI gold MS64. Both were priced at $120. I bought both. There was no difference in quality. To put PCI and SEGS coins in the same class as RAW FROM CHINA is nuts.
.........my daughter Madeline, when at age 4, she informed me that Barney, the Purple Dinosaur says so.......she caught me yelling expletives at a half-assembled Wooden Swing Set with missing bolts..
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<< <i>Maybe now he can FINALLY update the 1/2c-5c CPG!
I just choked on my donut!!!
Should be done about 2011. >>
I will be happy to take the "OVER" on that one!
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JT left the company, they didn't push him out. And yes, the difference between them is that JT wanted to "do what is right" in his opinion, and the company disagreed with his new policies. The company pushed to keep old policies, and JT continually disagreed until it became unbearable to stay.
PCI told me that signature series submissions will still be accepted, and those involved have not indicated disinterest due to JTs absence. Basically, as far as the company is concerned, nothing has changed.
I don't know all the sig. series people, but I do know Rick Snow, and I know that he and I do things the same way. We grade the coins honestly and conservatively, and we properly attribute die varieties to the series we specialize in. Every single slab containing a label bearing our signatures has received this treatment. We do not let slabs go out with our signatures that are overgraded or misattributed. They have gotten labels wrong in my case, and I made PCI correct them before I would sign them.
As for unsigned slabs, older or newer, I cannot speak for PCI and their grading opinions. I only answer for my signature, which is original and in purple pen on every single label for which I have seen and graded a coin...no exceptions.
The Lincoln cent store:
http://www.lincolncent.com
My numismatic art work:
http://www.cdaughtrey.com
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<< <i> Basically, as far as the company is concerned, nothing has changed.
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...and that is indeed unfortunate.
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<< <i>Thanks for clearing that up, I probably should not have speculated. I left a company last year for which I had worked for nearly 25 years for similar reasons, so I completely understand.
<< <i> Basically, as far as the company is concerned, nothing has changed.
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...and that is indeed unfortunate. >>
Clarification: Nothing has changed regarding the signature series program and its existence into the future.
The Lincoln cent store:
http://www.lincolncent.com
My numismatic art work:
http://www.cdaughtrey.com
USAF veteran, 1986-1996 :: support our troops - the American way.
considering the past Non-error and varieties they have certified as such?
In addition it should be noted that I do not work for PCI - I am a consultant. The coins graded with my signature are personally graded by me.
The reason I am doing the signature series for PCI is because I was personally approached. No other grading service has approached me for assistance.
PCGS nor NGC have any interest in my services to my knowledge, and ICG said using my system would be over the top with the other systems that are already out there. I received basically the same response from SEGS. I have never approached any other service to get my system recognized.
The Lincoln cent store:
http://www.lincolncent.com
My numismatic art work:
http://www.cdaughtrey.com
USAF veteran, 1986-1996 :: support our troops - the American way.
I did not know that PCI contracted with outside attributers, as well as using JT. If the attributed coins were indeed properly graded, it is too bad they did not apply these standards across the board.
<< <i>Coppercoins, thanks for the clarification.
I did not know that PCI contracted with outside attributers, as well as using JT. If the attributed coins were indeed properly graded, it is too bad they did not apply these standards across the board. >>
Costs too much money to ship coins back and forth across the country for expert grading and attribution - which is the primary reason why the signature series price is $25, while their regular coin price is $15 or less, I believe. The original idea, I believe, was to eventually have experts in all series represented and grading all the coins - but the program didn't have enough of a chance to become widespread.
The Lincoln cent store:
http://www.lincolncent.com
My numismatic art work:
http://www.cdaughtrey.com
USAF veteran, 1986-1996 :: support our troops - the American way.
As for the remainder of the signature series people - you should be fine. As I stated earlier, PCI is continuing the program.
The Lincoln cent store:
http://www.lincolncent.com
My numismatic art work:
http://www.cdaughtrey.com
USAF veteran, 1986-1996 :: support our troops - the American way.