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Is there ANY reason to use ANACS or ICG?

bidaskbidask Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
To grade your raw coins ( not net grade candidates)....I cannot think of one.

Unfortunately, not enough collectors and dealers out there who truly grade the coin and not judge the slab it is in so gotta go with the biggest TPG to grade my raws.
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ANACS is 5 minutes from my house, and they do a decent job.
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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If someone has the money and wants to. is reason enough.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There must be a reason to use them or nobody would use them. And if nobody used them, they would be out of business, which they are not.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i always like anacs for problem coins but with their slab change
    i have gone from liking them to practically hating them. i am a buyer
    not a submitter.

    the old slab showed off the coin. the new slab is about the look
    of the plastic. sigh.
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,060 ✭✭✭


    << <i>ANACS is 5 minutes from my house, and they do a decent job. >>



    Not only that, they will slab problem coins and note it too.....

    TorinoCobra71

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  • I might use ANACS or ICG if I didn't want to buy one of the expensive memberships to NGC or PCGS. For ANACS and ICG, you only pay when you use their service.
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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i always like anacs for problem coins but with their slab change
    i have gone from liking them to practically hating them. i am a buyer
    not a submitter.

    the old slab showed off the coin. the new slab is about the look
    of the plastic. sigh. >>

    I am a buyer of ANACS and ICG too.....just cannot think of a good reason to have them grade my raws.
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    I have heard that ANACS is excellent at attributing varieties, and if you have a key date coin that was messed with, they will still authenticate it for you, no body bags.

    I have also read here on the forums that if you have somewhat esoteric tokens and what not ICG is the one to use.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<just cannot think of a good reason to have them grade my raws.>>

    Well look at it like this. ICG is now on Ebay's list of confirmed TPG's. ICG gives out more 70's than PCGS and NGC, talking moderns here.

    Plenty of people who buy 70 plastic.
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Before they switched ownership, they used to have a special for moderns at $7.00 per coin. I had lots and lots and lots of major errors (all moderns) graded by them at that price. In my opinion, when it comes to major errors, it does not matter whose slab it is in. Besides that, I have no intention of selling them for many years to come. However, I do have plenty of errors in PCGS and NGC slabs.

    With all that said, I no longer submit errors to ANACS as they are too much money. All I send to ANACS now is my Morgan VAM discovery coins and problem coins.

    I've never submitted to ICG, just because. No reason in particular.

    I've sumitted three coins to SEGS and I plan on owning those for a long time to come. They are my 1922 No D cents. I have a Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3. They are the only company that would put the type on the holder. I like that. The grading is correct, too.
  • JeremyDie1JeremyDie1 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭
    I use ICG on my less value coins when they have specials.
  • I came across a nice VF-XF Type 2 1936 DDO Lincoln. It's going right out to ANACS.

    You're talking about a $100 coin that will improve its marketability by being in an ANACS holder.

    Garrow
  • With some of the grades I've seen PCGS and NGC give out, I'm surprised anybody uses them either!!!
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have heard that ANACS is excellent at attributing varieties, and if you have a key date coin that was messed with, they will still authenticate it for you, no body bags. >>



    ANACs is the best for varieties.
    And respected in 3rd or 4th for grading among TPGs.

    If you collect, buy or sell varieties they are the best choice.

    PCGS and NGC will do some but not all varieties.
    My rule is if PCGS or NGC will do that variety and the coin has value they get it but many others are for ANACs.

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  • ICG is the only one of the 4 major services that grade ancients, a very difficult series to grade and one you have to have SERIOUS EXPERIENCE in before you can grade. ICG is the lone leader in this, does a great job, and thus are very well respected. Ancients have caught fire these last few years, and i applaud ICG for taking this niche on and getting experienced eyes to grade these difficult (but historic!) coins.



  • 500Bay500Bay Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    I agree with ICG and ancients. That is their niche market. They do a great job with them. I have submitted many ancients to them - they are right on with grades and authenticity.
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, you don't have to pay some fee just to have the priviledge of submitting coins. Also, ICG, will slab about any medal or token that can be found.

    JJ
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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    If you have a lot of raw VAMs. ANACS attributes them all, not just a very small list, and do a pretty good job of it. They also charge a fraction of what PCGS does. So if it is for a collection and you want them slabbed and tagged, your dollars will put a lot more in plastic at ANACS. This really makes sense for the lower valued ones, where the fees cannot be justified at PCGS or NGC but are within reason at ANACS. For coins in thos elower valuations that you want to put on eBya now, ANACS is the way to go.
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  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer the optics of PSGS and NGC WAY over the very poorly constructed, sharp edged, easily scratched ANACS new holder. That is reason enough for me to avoid ANACS.

    Miles
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  • FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    If PCGS designated more varities other than those with FS #s, RPMs, DDO/Rs, etc, then I would probably agree with you. ANACS would be marginalized. Due to the fact PCGS has a slim viewpoint, my money and coins go to ANACS.

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  • ANACS, 2 words, problem coins. ICG, ummmmm. No.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there ANY reason to use ANACS or ICG? To grade your raw coins ( not net grade candidates). >>

    Actually I would not use ANACS or ICG to slab my net grade problem candidates. Those would go to PCGS or NGC for net grades. Problem coins unqualified for net grades would go to ANACS for details grades which is more popular than ICG for problem coins. ICG is good for ancients as mentioned and also all manner of farside (exonumia) though NGC has been expanding their exonumia presence.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see lots and lots of early copper in ANACS holders. They've very variety minded. ANACS isn't third-party alphabet soup, it's a trusted, long standing presence. They were certifying coins before PCGS ever was.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>ANACS isn't third-party alphabet soup, it's a trusted, long standing presence. They were certifying coins before PCGS ever was. >>

    I believe PCGS and NGC were started after ANACS lost people's trust. ANACS hasn't had a consistently good history.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>ANACS isn't third-party alphabet soup, it's a trusted, long standing presence. They were certifying coins before PCGS ever was. >>

    I believe PCGS and NGC were started after ANACS lost people's trust. ANACS hasn't had a consistently good history. >>



    When and why did ANACS lose people's trust? Never happened. PCGS and NGC were well established and successful before ANACS switched from their paper certificates to plastic slabs which is why they became number three.



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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    I love to buy ANACS and ICG coins in the circulated grades, they're as good as anybody and for the collector they are price effective. Now you get up into the high grade MS coins I'd trust PCGS more, NGC is very hit and miss IMO more so than even ANACS esp. in gold.

    I've purchased some modern $5 gold comms off Ebay without the packing or COA and ANACS/ICG is the way to go on these since they are right around melt.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I prefer the optics of PSGS and NGC WAY over the very poorly constructed, sharp edged, easily scratched ANACS new holder. That is reason enough for me to avoid ANACS.

    Miles >>



    Those PSGS holders are just CoinWorld holders, you know? image
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  • I've used ANACS but not ICG. I doubt I'll ever use ANACS again. No real reason.
  • I like the fact that I can pick up a nice coins at cheap price in ICG plastic.

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