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My opinion: Coin Value Prices are superior to PCGS Price Guide....

RealoneRealone Posts: 18,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
Do you agree or disagree.

Edited to say: true not for everything, but for what I collect it is, such as: Half Cents Large Cents, FEC's, IHC's, Capped Bust Half Dimes, Bust Dimes, LSD's &LSHD's, Twenty Cent pieces, Early Dollars; I guess you can say I am speaking of the classics not moderns with this thread.

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For what series?
    For what grade?
    Business strike or proof?
    Modern or classic?
    When in doubt, don't.
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Our prices ar the most accurateimage-----------------------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you agree or disagree. >>

    Disagree some of the pricing is off way off but so is PCGS. Coin Value Prices show a 1967 Jefferson in MS-66 as 25.00 and I sell MS-65 for 65.00 the 66 go's for over 500.00 but it's all up to the buyer not the book's. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • I was just clearing out my old mint items, and saw I had an extra 2001 Silver Eagle Proof that I should get rid of. In PCGS price guide, around 40 bucks. In ebay Auction results, about 14. I hope Coin Value is closer than the PCGS guide.
  • ccexccex Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭
    Please define "superior". Both price guides have been accused of "shilling for dealers" with retail asking prices. Neither would be accepted as very accurate to an insurance claims adjustor. If I see either one mentioned in an eBay auction, I'll hit the back button. Both guides have a few prices which are actually lower than the market, but this is the rare exception.

    For what it's worth, I prefer Coin Value prices for making a high estimate of the value of my collection.
    "Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity" - Hanlon's Razor
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  • I have known Mark Ferguson, the US values anaylist for Coin Values for many years and I don't believe he is a shill for anyone.
    He can be observed at nearly every major auction making notes.
    In my conversations with him he revealed that by actually attending the auctions rather than just reading the prices realized he was able to get a truer picture of actual market conditions and prices.
    The Grey Sheet depends almost entirely on dealer to dealer transactions on the electronic network and in most cases is not even close to attributing a price on coins with exceptional eye appeal or rarity.
    Many coins that come to auction haven't been on the market for years yet grey sheet will still list the last known bid and ask.
    In the past there was many a professional opinion that auction prices were unreliable due to "auction fever" and other conditions that would tend create anomalies.
    Today all of the major players fly to the four corners of the country armed with more pricing data and market awareness than was ever available before.
    Even the deep pocket collectors who attend these events are not amateurs given to auction madness.
    The most comprehensive knowledge available is the auction archives and I believe Heritage provides the most complete information.
    They provide the last half dozen or so examples that a similar coin was auctioned and the price realized.
    It's interesting to search for and find the reason why there is such a difference in prices for the same coin in the same grade.
    Since the images are shown it becomes apparent that not all coins in the same grade and holder are equal.
    Collectors who want to assemble a truly satisfying collection and who will settle for only those coins that are superior for the grade are much better served by referencing the auction archives to ascertain the amount they will probably have to pay.

    Collectors who are satisfied with the grade on the plastic holder will be able to fill their collection with coins priced closer to Greysheet. Dave W



    David J Weygant Rare Coins website: www.djwcoin.com





















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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The best value is still a rip image


  • << <i>The best value is still a rip image >>




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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hey Dave, it's one of them threads that I can hardly add much to, and after reading your post I felt it necessary to add something just for the "boost to the top" factor, as the subject matter is relevant... especially in light of the upcoming Long Beach show.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see any guide as superior to another.
    With all the crazy prices both high and low a coin can bring,
    none have a chance of staying on top of every typeimage
    It's been that way forever.
    Larry

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    price guides are merely guides... using a spread to help evaluate low end to higher end coins for the grade is long overdue.

    I do not take price guides too serious... seems to have worked well over the years...image

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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    CV is quite high on Saints. It reflects the peak prices last year but is not accurate now...I wish the prices were right. image
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good thread, especially for new collectors. Thanks to walkerman for the particularly informative post.

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