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what can help this 1999 wide am - olive oil ?

i found this 99 wide am in a roll yesterday and wondering what can help the green junk on the observe.

FYI - ive never tried to clean anything before or attempt anything with olive oil

i know its a little corroded on the back also

can this piece be helped ? any help would be aprreciated

thanks Snowman

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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some expert will be along shortly I'm sure. NCS is a professional option as they do work on copper.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i like it the way it is. just say no to dipping.
    the coin has character. would look awesome in an album.
  • If the green stuff is PVC (which I doubt) a litttle rinse in alcohol. But because it is Copper, that coin is EXACTLY how is should look. Don't worry about it. Put it in an air tite to keep what color on it is left.
  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    Blue Ribbon coin conditioner and a Q-tip.
    "Have a nice day!"
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Copper is a VERY difficult metal to work with and I don't think olive oil will help because that's for the pre-zincoln days. Best to leave it alone, but don't certify it as it will bag for environmental damage.
  • Snowman24Snowman24 Posts: 468 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the comments - as I'm not sure what i want to do with it ?

    it will give me something to think about today
  • Is there a railroad track near you?
    If so, wait til a train is coming, and place it on the track.
    That'll take care of it.

    Ray
  • dcamp78dcamp78 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭
    The stains on this coin can't be removed because the 'skin' has been penetrated.
    Leave it as-is and sell it. It will continue decaying over time.
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  • It is what it is. I don't see much you can do with it. It's not a bad looking coin. If you have a burning desire to get it into a holder, go with ANACS.

    Garrow
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on cherrying a 1999 Wide AM. image
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there a railroad track near you?
    If so, wait til a train is coming, and place it on the track.
    That'll take care of it.

    Ray >>




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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even NCS will have problems with this coin. Do "hose" it down with acetone as no harm done but probably will not do much as this looks like surface oxidation. Ditto on the Blue Ribbon but gentle wash with mild soap and water and tamp dry with white cotton towel.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU53 at PCGS. Try them first ! If it bodybags, then send it to ANACS.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look closely at the coins skin. If there are any breaks or pits then Big Dave is right, the coin is already dissolving from the inside and will be too far gone to help.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"


  • << <i>AU53 at PCGS. Try them first ! If it bodybags, then send it to ANACS. >>

    Why waste the money? LOL! Send it to NCS if you want it certified. If they're able to clean it up properly NGC will then grade it. If they can't fix it, they'll put it in a NCS net slab.
    aka Dan
  • BarbercoinBarbercoin Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭
    Good find!!

    I know how you feel. I found one in rolls about a year ago. However, it was in pretty good shape. Too bad about those spots.

    Keep looking!

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  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭
    I know how it feels! imageimage

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  • SaamSaam Posts: 593 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i found this 99 wide am in a roll yesterday and wondering what can help the green junk on the observe. >>



    Was the entire roll 1999? or was it a mixed roll?
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,462 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>AU53 at PCGS. Try them first ! If it bodybags, then send it to ANACS. >>

    Why waste the money? LOL! Send it to NCS if you want it certified. If they're able to clean it up properly NGC will then grade it. If they can't fix it, they'll put it in a NCS net slab. >>


    LOL... Doesn't NCS charge about a hundy ?

    Just go straight to ANACS or maybe Whitman™ then.


  • << <i>Is there a railroad track near you?
    If so, wait til a train is coming, and place it on the track.
    That'll take care of it.

    Ray >>



    Ray,

    I think he was hoping to remove the dirt not permanently embed itimage
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    Rob


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  • Keep in mind that Olive Oil is a very mild acid....


    AL
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL... Doesn't NCS charge about a hundy ?

    Just go straight to ANACS or maybe Whitman™ then


    contrary to popular belief, NCS isn't very expensive.

    if this coin went to NGC via NCS it'd be about $15 for the NCS charge and $25 for the NGC encapsulation with return shipping if it qualified . NCS would probably NOT be able to remove all the black carbon but they'd be able to prevent anything else happening to the coin and encapsulate it for long term protection.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you, Al

    Educational posts are the primary reason I come here. I need correction and I appreciate it anytime.
    Joe
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish people would stop calling these oxidation spots "carbon spots". They are NOT carbon at all and represent oxidation of the metal. Even minimal exposure to acid media such as olive oild will tend to strip luster rather dramatically and would avoid on more recent copper bits, not to mention the copper plated zincs that we now have...
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Zinc will self destruct. It will go quickly or it can last for decades
    but once the copper is penetrated its days are numbered. I'd be
    inclined to just stabilize it in alcohol or acetone and then be sure
    to keep it in a low humidity enviroment.

    Perhaps encasing it in lucite would work. image
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish people would stop calling these oxidation spots "carbon spots". They are NOT carbon at all and represent oxidation of the metal.

    OK 7Jaguars, before you pop a gasket you might want to stop and take a deep breath.

    Taken from the PCGS LINGO page.................
    -----carbon spot
    A spot seen mainly on copper and gold coins, though also occasionally found on U.S. nickel coins (which are 75 percent copper) and silver coins (which are 10 percent copper). Carbon spots are brown to black spots of oxidation that range from minor to severe – some so large and far advanced that the coin is not graded because of environmental damage.

    while they are indeed oxidation, they are called Carbon Spots. there, i feel better, how about you??image
  • Snowman24Snowman24 Posts: 468 ✭✭✭
    thanks for all the replys and now im thinking of sending it to NCS and see how they handle it - ill post it when it comes back after I gather up others coins to send in

    Saam - I found this in a mixed up bank roll - the kind with both ends open, white-red Harrisburg wrapper type - if this answer your question

    Snowman
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep the coin in mineral oil.

    The mineral oil will save that coin.
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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
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