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The 3 most valuable business strike IH's of all-time?

I think so. How would you rate these rarities if they went to auction tomorrow, 1 to 3?



The 1877 PCGS MS66RD Blay Golden Princess.

The finest 1877 without a doubt.
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The only RD graded Doubled Liberty, the PCGS S1 DDO MS64RD.

This single RD example has a legendary story behind it.
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The 1899 PCGS MS68RD (Heritage image).

Without a doubt the highest state of preservation of any IH known, an awesome coin in person
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  • How about the 1886 T2 ms66 that LakeSamman owned? Forgetting about auction value, I think that would be my favorite coin as I don't collect varieties, but would consider that part of my basic set as it's a major design change in my opinion (I think most coin Albums include it?).

    As for the three Shylock mentions, I'd have to say the 1877. I'd go with a basic key over a variety or condition rarity.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are all cool! image
  • Is there a pedigree behind that 1899 68RD?

    How could a coin have survived 108 years in such a state of preservation? Must have had extraordinary care or been extremely lucky (maybe both)!

    Truly awesome coin, is it in Blay's collection?

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  • That 1899 isn't the famous Ebay coin, is it?
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love IHC...
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

    "Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."


    ~Wayne
  • BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there a pedigree behind that 1899 68RD?

    Rick Snow and I bought it from the Alan Epstein collection in 1/96.We sold it to Joe Gorrell shortly thereafter. Joe Gorrell sold it in the FUN auction of January 2003 for $69,000 to an unknown phone bidder who out bid Stewart Blay in his famous "Statue of Liberty" bidding stance.
    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
  • BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭
    I rate the coins as follows:

    1. Stewart's golden princess 1877 PCGS MS66RD

    2. 1899 PCGS MS68RD "note the population report shows 2 coins graded as such for 1899, only 1 example exists in this grade.

    3. 1873 Closed 3 PCGS MS64RD "Double Liberty" S-1
    Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Story on that '73 is what?
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd rate them as follows:

    1. The 1877 indian princess. The only 1877 I've ever seen that I would stretch for.

    2. The 1899 68R, although most of the value there is in the plastic. image

    3. My old 1888/7 MS64RB.

    4. The 1873 DDO S1 64R, the one with the interesting pedigree. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I talked about the interesting pedigrees of all of these in my books.

    1877 record price for a raw Indian cent, $71.3K and Stewart had $100K on it. $200,000 today and maybe $300,000 if it gets the MS67RD it deserves.

    1873 S1 Cherrypicked by BigMoose in a collection as a regular 1873. (a big YOU SUCK!) Stewart also bought this one. $150K today at least.

    1888/7 MS-64RB went from an ANACS MS-62RB to PCGS MS64RB, and well deserved at that. Last sold for $85K (Lakesam bought half a plane with the proceeds) $100,000 today.

    1899 Alan Epstein sold it to us at $12.5K and bought it back as his favorite coin for $13.5K. Later we sold for 14.5K to Joe Gorrell, and then it auctioned for $69K. Today? $100K.
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Rick - nice assessment.

    I think I talked about the interesting pedigrees of all of these in my books.

    1877 record price for a raw Indian cent, $71.3K and Stewart had $100K on it. $200,000 today and maybe $300,000 if it gets the MS67RD it deserves.

    1873 S1 Cherrypicked by BigMoose in a collection as a regular 1873. (a big YOU SUCK!) Stewart also bought this one. $150K today at least.

    1888/7 MS-64RB went from an ANACS MS-62RB to PCGS MS64RB, and well deserved at that. Last sold for $85K (Lakesam bought half a plane with the proceeds) $100,000 today.

    1899 Alan Epstein sold it to us at $12.5K and bought it back as his favorite coin for $13.5K. Later we sold for 14.5K to Joe Gorrell, and then it auctioned for $69K. Today? $100K.


    Lakesammman's 1888/7 was #4 on my list. My great friend, and I know he consigned it you. But, it's #4 in my book.

    The Epstein 1899 is too important a coin to leave out of the top 3.

  • <<Rick Snow and I bought it from the Alan Epstein collection in 1/96.We sold it to Joe Gorrell shortly thereafter. Joe Gorrell sold it in the FUN auction of January 2003 for $69,000 to an unknown phone bidder who out bid Stewart Blay in his famous "Statue of Liberty" bidding stance. >>

    Remember Brian, he was going against ME on the floor with that Liberty stance!! We both lost (as you posted) but afterwards, he wanted to know who I was!!! (I was going to buy it for my daughter, because it was close to perfect. I didn't think it would go that high and thus started the euphoria for IHC prices). Later that day he said to me, "I'm so glad I didn't pay such moon money for that coin", which I replied with, "Well, you were the under bidder so you WOULD HAVE paid moon money. You make no sense".

    We still argue at auctions/shows using the same language today...image
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  • My opinion is most do not agree/understand the 1888/7 date. I don't think it is anything to pay money for. And yes, Lakesammman is correct - the 1899 is another one of those crack-it-and-mix-it-with-a-bunch-of-cracked-67Reds and see if you can tell the difference. Hard to place big time money for a top pop to me TODAY, after experience since you never know when (and someone will) get lucky with an upgrade to 68 - (whether 1899 or another date).

    I think it would be in the top three still though. What about the 1861 MS68??? I thought that one was nice also, but price-wise would probably not make the top three.
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    How about the Joshua and Ally Walsh 1909-S in 67 red?
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1909-S in 67R taught me the importance of investing in registry plastic (at least in the current era).
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.

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