Poll: Varieties in the Registry Sets

Spooly

I have the following ideas on vartieties. You have two groups of collectors. Ones that collect standard Dates and Mink marks and those the collect both. You can't add varieties and keep both groups happy.

So what if you had a Varieties Only Registry Sets?

Or

What about a Mixed Set (both) but set it up like this. You only have ONE coin for that year slot, but have several coins that could go in it.


Examples:Lincolns

1951-D (Regular)
1951-D D-over-S Breens# 2202 = 1 slot in the Registry
1951-D D-over-S FS# 021.52

Now this is were the weighting comes into play. You weight the rare vartieties higher.


1951-D (Regular) = 0
1951-D D-over-S Breens# 2202 = 1
1951-D D-over-S FS# 021.52 = 2

Now the collectors have choice, if you don't collect vartieties you don't have to buy a vartieties to COMPLETE the set. But if you want more points you can buy a variety.



I myself would like to see a Varieties Reg set Only! I mean that way you have the best of both worlds, separate but equal. There are over 70+ varieties in the Lincolns alone! (I do believe that PCGS needs
to start grading more varieties)

The statement about "naked eye" is not a hard standard. Under the above ideas you don't need a hard standard on Varieties.


Please vote! Lets see how the membership thinks about this issue.

Spooly

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RegistryCoin

I think that the inclusion of varieties is fine as it is, within the current sets. Agreed, a "varieties-only" set may be a good thought. But, I think we should put off a combo-set, or discussion of combo-sets, in general, due to the complicated nature of this endeavor, until the additional non-combo-sets, ie., subsets of commems, are fully integrated into the registry.

mansco

Spooly,

I believe that the fairest approach is to make the set complete with only the regular date and mintmark coin being required.

However, you should get bonus or premium points for varieties etc.

So for the Morgan set, you only need to complete the 95 coin set ( as designated by PCGS coin numbers for the series which are numeric only) and you get additional points for the varieties (thos designated with an alphanumeric coin number). This would mean that a set with all 95 coins at MS65 would have a weighting of 65.00, but you get bonus points to make the set above 65.00 if it contains 96 or more DISTINCT specimens. So if you had all 124 regular and varieties you would have a set which might have a set rating in the 7X.XX (as an example). The math would have to be worked out, but your set is clearly enhanced by the varieities, but you are not forced to collect beyond the 95 coins to have a "complete" set.

On the other hand, if all 124 coins were needed to have a complete set, then low population coins like the 1880-S 8/7 ( a very underpriced coin)should go up in value astronomically based on supply and demand.

CJK

Spooly, I like your idea of Varieties Only Sets.

Mansco, your idea is intriguing too.

Perhaps PCGS could combine both ideas and offer Varieties Only Sets with Mansco's weighting idea added?

Comments?

Spooly

Mansco I agree. I think we are on the same page as far the weighting goes! I would like to keep the Regular sets clean (date and mink mark only) and have a Varieties Only Set.

But if PCGS decides to mix them, keep the coin count the same just have multi coins that could fit into that one "slot". Then just weight the rare varieties higher.


Half cents to nickels in the Cherry Pickers guide is over 400 pages! Their are plenty of coins for a varieties only Reg Set. PCGS just needs to get with the program and start grading them!

Dog97

If varities are included in regular sets they should be an optional coin like the overdates are in the Morgan sets. Since PCGS doesn't attribute anything except the major varities it's a non-issue. If they attributed varities like ANACS & SEGS then I would say yes, make a special varities set. PCGS's refusal to attribute varites only results in collectors spending their hard earned money at ANACS & SEGS.

MacCoin

if I had a cent, nickel, dime, quarter, half or dollar type Varieties would fine but in my 1900 type set has many Varieties now. I have to buy a lot of coins for the set now I would hate to have to look for a 55dd wheatie, 72dd memorial, lg-sm date lincoln, 3 legged buff or fat lipped morgan

Spooly

Dog, I heard PCGS is going to start grading more varieties. You think adding them to the Registry Sets is the first step in promoting the new program???????? Double Bang Promotion$$

Dog97

I voted no but I meant yes for the Varities Only. If they are in the regular sets they should be an optional coin.

So who is going to make the decision on what varities are included? I remind you Spooly since you are the cent guy there are many attributed varities. There are 24 different varities just for the 1945-S Lincoln.