Notre Dame - three weeks and no touchdowns
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Lost to Michigan today 38-0. They play Michigan State in South Bend next weekend.
When was the last time things have been this bad for the fighting Irish?
When was the last time things have been this bad for the fighting Irish?
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Bosox1976
<< <i>Welcome to David Carr's world Jimmy. 7 sacks today. The ND OL has cemented it's spot in the Hall of Shame. >>
I remember one play where the ND quarterback was sacked by four players who were on him in seconds. Where is the protection?
Weis has got to address this problem.
I also want to say is it me or is every team Notre Dame plays they are bigger and faster then ND?
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<< <i>Maybe Brady Quinn will be appreciated alittle more... >>
Brady Quinn might be doing better than the freshman Clausen, but if he had THIS O-line last year, there's only so much he could have done...and that assumes he was able to stay healthy all season while getting his brains bashed in.
<< <i>Meanwhile Ty Willingham has his program playing tough against a very good OSU team, and the 'genius' Weis has nobody calling for his head.... >>
I still find it incredible that Willingham was run out on a rail at Notre Dame. I am sure the Charile Weis worshipping has evaporated -- but they will need to eat a 10 year contract if they want to fire him!
<< <i>Maybe Brady Quinn will be appreciated alittle more... >>
heh a guy who won zero bowl games and zero bowl games and racked up stats against the service academies? Uhm if you say so....
<< <i>It's a team game, I didn't see him on Defense. >>
I didn't see him winning bowl games either.
Funny that IrishMike has been a ghost here since the start of the season...funny how quickly the most ardent supporters turn into ghosts when their teams turn south. He's not alone, there's a whole group of them here who do the same when their baseball team does the same.
Len Dawson, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman, Roger Staubach, Johnny Unitas, Norm Van Brocklin
All HoFer's
<< <i>Here's a few other QB's that never won a bowl game:
Len Dawson, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman, Roger Staubach, Johnny Unitas, Norm Van Brocklin
All HoFer's >>
Elway never even played a bowl game, so couldn't have won one.
Same with Fouts.
Len Dawson played in an era of 8 bowl games, and his team never saw a bowl game.
And on and on and on. Brady Quinn had two more chances than Dawson, Elway, and Fouts did - and delivered NOTHING.
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<< <i>I remember one play where the ND quarterback was sacked by four players who were on him in seconds. Where is the protection?
Weis has got to address this problem. >>
The linemen certainly were not pass blocking on that play. They all went to the ground like it was nap time.
Ken
<< <i>So your saying that since Elway never played well enough to lead his team to a bowl game that is better than Quinn getting his team to high level bowl games and losing? >>
Not at all.
One need to only look at the bowl system in place now to realize that (a) ND is given preferential treatment in regards to bowl game placement and (b) there are far more bowl games now than in Elway's time. Throw in the fact that Quinn didn't beat any of his big time opponents and you have a player who simply cannot get it done.
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<< <i>So your saying that since Elway never played well enough to lead his team to a bowl game that is better than Quinn getting his team to high level bowl games and losing? >>
Not at all.
One need to only look at the bowl system in place now to realize that (a) ND is given preferential treatment in regards to bowl game placement and (b) there are far more bowl games now than in Elway's time. Throw in the fact that Quinn didn't beat any of his big time opponents and you have a player who simply cannot get it done. >>
ND has gotten into some bowls in the past that they didn't deserveto because they have a nationwide following so the bowl promoters
know they will get a good turnout and at least decent TV ratings.
BTW, this may be Tys' players but Weis is coaching them. They are in complete disarray. I've never seen a team be this disorganized, and this is ND.
<< <i>The Irish have a lot of young talent on that team that Weiss recruited. He has really only had two recruiting years because he was with the patriots during his first recruiting season. He is trying to get by with Ty's garbage right now. And lets not forget they are starting a freshamn at QB. When is the last time that has happened at ND? Ty didnt get a fair shake there, but this is still his team on the field. >>
Then by this logic Ty should have gotten the credit for the last 2 seasons. But all that we heard was that fat blimp was seated at the right hand of TD Jesus. ie the second coming.
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<< <i>They play my Spartans tomorrow. I wonder with all the stakes riding on this game, if we don't see some interesting officiating here. Everyone in the media wants ND to win, and even the hard-line ND backers will likely turn on CW if he goes 0-4 and loses to MSU at home. There is a ton of pressure to see ND win this game. I'm not usually a conspiratist, but I will be watching with a critical eye. >>
LOL, just be a good Spartan fan and realize you guys always lose simply because you're outplayed. When's the last time you guys lost because of a clock operator cheating or a missed pass interference call on a 2 point conversion?
And now Ty's is doing well in a TOUGH Pac 10 year...imagine if ND had just kept Ty instead of listening to ignorant ND boosters.
<< <i>College football is better when Notre Dame is good. Its a shame they are so awful this year. The offensive line has been very disapointing allowing 23 sacks and nearly no yards rushing. This will be a long frustrating year for Irish fans, but hopefully next year with having the best recruiting class in college football they will bounce back. Thats if all the verbal commitments go through. >>
How will having the "best recruiting class" allow ND to bounce back next season?
What? ND is gonna start a bunch of these "best recruits" as freshmen?
Hahah that would be really great to see. What a spectacle!
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<< <i>College football is better when Notre Dame is good. Its a shame they are so awful this year. The offensive line has been very disapointing allowing 23 sacks and nearly no yards rushing. This will be a long frustrating year for Irish fans, but hopefully next year with having the best recruiting class in college football they will bounce back. Thats if all the verbal commitments go through. >>
How will having the "best recruiting class" allow ND to bounce back next season?
What? ND is gonna start a bunch of these "best recruits" as freshmen?
Hahah that would be really great to see. What a spectacle! >>
From the sound of your antagonism, shows why Notre Dame is talked about no matter if they are good or not. They may not be as consistant as they were in the past or won a bowl game since '93. Win or lose they are a huge asset to college football. They will bounce back and be great again.
<< <i>When's the last time you guys lost because of a clock operator cheating or a missed pass interference call on a 2 point conversion? >>
Now that's a crybaby Michigan fan if I ever heard one!
<< <i>College football is better when Notre Dame is good. >>
That's as arrogant a statement as I've seen made. No, college football is not 'better' when ND is good. It's better for the mindless masses who feel ND is a relevant program (which they haven't been in years), but having more diverse teams good and taking the national spotlight is the BEST thing for any sport, yes even college football.
That's like saying baseball is better when the yankees are good...or basketball is better when the lakers are good.
No it's not better, its different and different is always good.
Funny thing is, collge football has EXPLODED in popularity while ND has been essentially a non-factor...shooting to holes the theory that college football is somehow 'better' with ND good.
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Only someone as brilliant as Weis could lead a team to their first 0-4 start in 119 (!!!!!) years.
Way to go, boys!
An excellent signature line... but it does not quite go far enough. There is something called sportmanship, class and the way fans act regardless if their team wins or loses.
As for the Notre Dame team over the past few years, I don't think it is appropriate to say the program has been irrelevant. Were they a National title contender? Not really, but there comeback against UCLA and Michigan State was electrifying. Its not about being number one, its about playing the best possible and being competitive. There is alot to be said for putting on a good show.
Weiss is 0-4... but There was another Notre Dame coach that came from Northwestern and during his tenure at Northwestern, he survived a winless season in 1957 and then went on to beat Norte Dame 4 straight years from 1959 through 1962. His name? Ara Parseghian
The reason this is worth mentioning is because the instant gratification associated with winning in sports has become more important than the long term planning that is required to build or rebuild a sports program. Perhaps we can all sit back and learn alittle from Weiss and Notre Dame. Notre Dame's future will emerge to be as bright as its past.
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