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Whats up with dealers and graded coins?

I recently bought a 1976S Rosie . It is slabbed by PCGS and graded PR69 DCAM. I took it to a dealer a few days ago with some other stuff I wanted to sell. He offered me a whole dollar for it and said he would break it out of the slab and put it it his "junk box". Now my question is: Is it really worthless or do I just look stupid?
I would really appreciate one of you dealers to comment on this.
Seems to be happening to me a lot lately.
Molon Labe

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's just a dealer who doesn't deal in Roosies. His offer doesn't mean you have to accept it. Look elsewhere.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    These are selling on e-bay for less than $10 slabbed.

    Really the only reason to have them slabbed is either for protection or for a registry set.

    The 2006 Proofs are selling between $3-6 slabbed by PCGS on e-bay.
  • I'll comment.

    We don't deal in high grade moderns, we don't pay much attention to that market and we really don't know anything about them. If someone offered us a 1976-S PR69 CAM dime, we'd almost certainly pass at any price (possibly missing a great opportunity in the process).

    But there are people who are expert in moderns, would know if a 1976-S dime in PR69 CAM is a rare and important coin, would know exactly what to pay for it and to whom they could sell it, etc.

    In other words, I would suggest you bring the coin to a dealer who specializes in this sort of material.

    And I would give you the same advice if you had a rare colonial - you are not likely to get full value for something like that unless you take it to a dealer who knows colonials.
  • I thought it cost more than $3-$6 just slab them.
    Molon Labe
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It happen's all the time if they don't collecte modern coins it's not worth much to them.I took some 1967 Jefferson's MS-66 in a P.C.G.S holder to a Dealer and he would buy them from me for 5.00 he said that is all they are worth. So I said thank you and went on my way. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought it cost more than $3-$6 just slab them. >>



    It costs $10 in bulk. Some dealers have 100's of sets slabbed at a time looking to profit on the PR70's. Unfortunately the Lincoln and Roosevelt are darn near impossible to profit from, even if you get a couple of 70's.
  • Why don't you offer it back to the person from whom you bought it? Since they sold it in the first place I would assume that they are happy to make a market in Proof-69 Roosevelt Dimes and will maintain a satisfactory buy-sell spread on your coin.

    Edited to add: Or maybe you could just cut out the middleman altogether and sell it on ebay. Here's a recent sale you can use as a guideline. There were others for a little bit more.

    1976-S Auction
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "t happen's all the time if they don't collecte modern coins it's not worth much to them.I took some 1967 Jefferson's MS-66 in a P.C.G.S holder to a Dealer and he would buy them from me for 5.00 he said that is all they are worth. So I said thank you and went on my way.:"

    Are you sure the dealer was right? Maybe $5 is all it was worth to him. But that doesn't mean that's all the coin is worth to everybody

    The PCGS Price Guide says a 1967 Jefferson in MS66 is worth $525, and the pop report says there are only 34 of them in that grade and just two finer.. My guess is that market reality lies somewhere between those two prices –– and I'll bet it's closer to PCGS' price than that dealer's price.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • SaamSaam Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It costs $10 in bulk. Some dealers have 100's of sets slabbed at a time looking to profit on the PR70's. Unfortunately the Lincoln and Roosevelt are darn near impossible to profit from, even if you get a couple of 70's. >>



    I would love to buy a certified MS70 Lincoln for ten dollars... Sign me up! image
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It costs $10 in bulk. Some dealers have 100's of sets slabbed at a time looking to profit on the PR70's. Unfortunately the Lincoln and Roosevelt are darn near impossible to profit from, even if you get a couple of 70's. >>



    I would love to buy a certified MS70 Lincoln for ten dollars... Sign me up! image >>



    Try submitting 2000-3000 and paying $30K in fees. Oh and if they find a 70 it is $25 to slab it. Then you have the headache of selling all of those $10 slabs for less than a dollar each. image
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"t happen's all the time if they don't collecte modern coins it's not worth much to them.I took some 1967 Jefferson's MS-66 in a P.C.G.S holder to a Dealer and he would buy them from me for 5.00 he said that is all they are worth. So I said thank you and went on my way.:"

    Are you sure the dealer was right? Maybe $5 is all it was worth to him. But that doesn't mean that's all the coin is worth to everybody

    The PCGS Price Guide says a 1967 Jefferson in MS66 is worth $525, and the pop report says there are only 34 of them in that grade and just two finer.. My guess is that market reality lies somewhere between those two prices –– and I'll bet it's closer to PCGS' price than that dealer's price. >>

    Ya 34 is right and I have 10 of them I did see one on the bay it was a MS-67 was going to try but just over my price did not sell went to 2,300. or so I was going to bid 1,000 but it passed that mark in two day that it was up did not get to it's reserve so it did not sell.


    Hoard the keys.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS price guide says $40 for that coin. So, assuming a dealer was interested, an offer around $24 probably wouldn't be out of line....since greysheet is likely more around $30-something, and they have to make something on it.

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I generally sell that coin at around $6-$7/coin wholesale in bulk lots. I do not offer them to collectors nor do I buy them already slabbed. My goal is simply to try to break even (or close enough) on the grading fee per coin on the coins I am trying for PR70DC and fail to get the grade. For example, I estimate I have graded close to 200-300 PR69DC of that particular coin already this year WITH -0- PR70DC. I am surprised at how tough the coin has been to grade in PR70DC over the past year. I sell off my "failed" attempts and if I lose a dollar or two per coin (or possibly even make a buck or two per coin), so be it. Since I sell them all the time at around $6-$7+/coin, I suspect you could also find a buyer at or around that level if you try.

    Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    listen to Wondercoin on this one!
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oops
    When in doubt, don't.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am curious what greysheet is on the coin....anybody know?
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grey Sheet doesn't list Roosevelt dimes at all.
    When in doubt, don't.

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