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What is up with Germany, sales-wise?

laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
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Of all the countries coins that I sell, Germany has held the least promise and the lowest sales.

I don't ask unfair starting prices, usually attractively less than krause but Germany's sales have been pretty rotten.

Would someone educate me as to why?
One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato

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  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭
    Interesting perspective... I don't know what you've been selling, but in my experience high quality German coins and medals are bringing extremely strong prices. -Preussen
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  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    By example:

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    Am I too high at $18?
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Am I too high at $18? >>


    image I really don't know; it seems you graded it AU/Unc, and KM lists it at $8 in EF & $40 in Unc. Since this is a type readily found in Unc., I'd say that a raw AU would bring much closer to EF money than Unc. I take it that it did not sell? If not, then perhaps it's time for a price adjustment. It wouldn't be one for me personally, but there is probably a buyer out there. I'd probably list it (assuming you're talking ebay) @ $.99 and see what happens. -Preussen
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  • a039a039 Posts: 1,546 ✭
    Not anything about your coin, but just a general FYI about German coin collectors the smallest rim ding is no buy.
  • weresteveweresteve Posts: 1,224 ✭
    In my experience high quality German coins and medals are bringing extremely strong prices. -Preussen

    So I've noticed ... my timing as of late has sucked when it comes to multiple items on my wish list hitting eBay at the same time. Right now I have my sights on two commems, and I doubt I get either of them as they are one of the more popular issues.
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  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    We've found that Germans aren't particularly fond of dark toning, so that may also have held your coin back.


    That might also explain why it seems that 90% of German silver coins have been polished to death. (OK, it's not really that high, but seems that way sometimes image )
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  • wildjagwildjag Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭
    I have been having a very hard time finding the German States coins that I am looking for. And most high end pieces bring brutally strong money, especially the German auction houses (also due to Euro conversion rates).

    As for your reference coin: I have one just like it, but I paid around $10 for it. And your coin appears to have PVC spots.

    Its all about eye appeal for a lot of collectors I know and they would not give that coin a 2nd glance
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Wildjag, thank you for your honesty. As for PVC, in hand I don't see it- I admit, the toning is rather strong...
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    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • olmanjonolmanjon Posts: 1,187 ✭
    The PVC is over the H. I understand what everyone is saying about Germans not likeing this and that, but what about the rest of us who collect German? I don't need a highend piece but eye candy is still nice. How about this one
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think some German minors have a smaller following... the larger crown size coins seem to have a stronger following among collectors... just my observations.

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  • wildjagwildjag Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The PVC is over the H. >>



    Also, look below the 3 on the crest and to the right of it. Bottom of the S in Scheide, a couple other spots too.

    If you have any Unc German States Hannover coins, let me know
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Well, I'm not too pleased with myself... just checked out the coin really carefully and i can barely see what you're talking about inside.

    However, when I take it outside the pvc damage jumps out at you. So, I'm embarrassed I didn't notice it before. The lights I use (natural daylight bulbs) must have illuminated it properly for viewing on the internet after imaging. I'm further embarrassed I didn't see it then. The coin will be going off sale momentarily, but what do you do with (what was) a nice coin with PVC damage?

    Dang, I'm pi$$ed!

    Thanks wildjag!
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    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think some German minors have a smaller following... the larger crown size coins seem to have a stronger following among collectors... just my observations. >>

    That's quite true. But as one who collects kreuzers, I've found to my annoyance that some in that smaller subset are quite avid collectors with überbidding tendencies! image

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  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Laurent,
    Try the good ol' acetone bath. Should get most of the greenies off in a couple minutes so long as its not too far advanced.

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